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    Default Build Critique - The Pure Rogue Experience

    Hail and well met! (That's about the extent of the RP I have time for anymore )

    I have to admit, with time constraints, I spend more time reading the forums on my phone whilst traveling than actual play time in game but I'm hoping that will change in the near future.

    Have been reading Rogue forum threads from as far back as '07 to current and there is a LOT of good info out there if you're willing/determined to mine for it. I'm looking for a critique of this build and some answers/opinions on some questions. But first, a little history.

    Beta and live thru Gianthold and then went on several in/out breaks over the years. Returned last year to roll up a monk and take it to twenty. Did several Shrouds and a few other raids and then life called again and I had to bow out just before Airships were arriving. Returned about a month ago (just missing the CC Event ) and went through all the update/change threads to survey what I've missed.

    My wife has also returned, after a nearly four year hiatus, (read: school+work+kids) and we've got a duo Rgr/Rog, FvS that's progressing much slower than I'd like due to schedule issues.

    In PnP I'm usually the Divine and it transferred here as well in the early stages. Have two Clr's, two FvS and two Pally hybrids. I enjoy guild runs when I can stay in long enough to contribute and I don't have a problem with PUG's. When it gets to be too much I can always solo / craft but I'd rather contribute in a group if at all possible.


    I'm looking for my first 'pure rogue experience'. I chose human for the extra feat and skill points. I declined khopesh due to my lack of funds for decent weapons at level and choose rapiers since I have a decent stock passed down from my Warchanter.

    Yes, this is a 'strength' build, TWF, Assasin III (well, my take on it anyway) There are several posters who have listed similar builds here on the forums and it's to their credit, not mine, for the concept of such. I've tried to blend what I think will be the best overall for my initial rogue experience.

    Things I'm concerned with:

    STR: With a +6 item, unbuffed, will 28 STR be enough damage increase?

    DEX: With items, will my Reflex save be enough to make full use of Imp. Evasion? I'm done grinding for AC. This character is going for utility over AC. Just doesn't seem worth it for this rogue.

    CON: This has got to be the lowest HP character I've ever rolled (I'm used to dwarves). I did take the +1 CON Enh for human to qualify for third tier Toughness Enh and without crafted gear I'll be odd at 20. I haven't done the full HP breakdown yet, still concerned I won't like the results after I see them.

    INT: is starting high (as compared to a lot of other builds I've seen posted) but I wanted a great number of skill points to make sure that I could max all the rogue skills that I might want either solo or group. Jump is going to sit @10 for the 40 ceiling with spell/item. Balance will be 20 with +6 Dex item and should allow for decent recovery. Also considering my Assassinate DC. How does the breakdown look, overall, in your opinion?

    WIS: /Dump

    CHA: Points here for UMD

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1
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    The Pure  Rogue Experience
    Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
    (20 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 252
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 9
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             15                    22
    Dexterity            15                    18
    Constitution         14                    17
    Intelligence         14                    18
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             12                    14
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               5                    17
    Bluff                 5                    32
    Concentration         2                     4
    Diplomacy             5                    26
    Disable Device        6                    28
    Haggle                1                    23
    Heal                 -1                     1
    Hide                  6                    36
    Intimidate            1                     3
    Jump                  6                    11
    Listen               -1                     1
    Move Silently         6                    36
    Open Lock             6                    28
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                2                     5
    Search                6                    28
    Spot                  3                    24
    Swim                  2                     7
    Tumble                3                    28
    Use Magic Device      5                    29
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 3 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility II
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Improved Hide I
    Enhancement: Improved Hide II
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost III
    Enhancement: Human Versatility III
    Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Slippery Mind
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery
    Enhancement: Rogue Extra Action Boost I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Deadly Shadow
    Appreciate in advance your thoughts, opinions and advice on making my first rogue, and first build post to the forums, the change in pace I'm looking for....
    Last edited by Pithrin; 06-03-2011 at 05:38 PM.

    ~Khyber~

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