Stunning blow barbarian.

[Kourier]

Wow, every thread on this forum changes into a big discussion :P

But after seeing this I have another little question.
Do stunned enemies grant sneak attacks?

I wanted to try this build (http://ddo-daily.com/roguebarian-by-krythan) and I saw he took stunning blow, then I thought that if stunned enemies don't grant crits then maybe they don't grant sneak attacks.

Thanks in advance.

Helpless mobs do take sneak attack damage (but it is not amplified).

I think sirgog meant THF feats.

[CrushingInklings]

Wow, every thread on this forum changes into a big discussion :P

But after seeing this I have another little question.
Do stunned enemies grant sneak attacks?

I wanted to try this build (http://ddo-daily.com/roguebarian-by-krythan) and I saw he took stunning blow, then I thought that if stunned enemies don't grant crits then maybe they don't grant sneak attacks.

Thanks in advance.

That build is out dated. So much has changed in the game since posted that. You can get sneak attack damage off stunned mobs but it does not receive the 50% increase. The build he has posted is also missing new rogue feats like opportunist. And honestly even when it was posted it was not that good of a build if you plan on staying 20 with out TRing.

[jojojakes]

That build is out dated. So much has changed in the game since posted that. You can get sneak attack damage off stunned mobs but it does not receive the 50% increase. The build he has posted is also missing new rogue feats like opportunist. And honestly even when it was posted it was not that good of a build if you plan on staying 20 with out TRing.

Ah I just started with that build and I'm about to hit lvl 3. So is that build not worth making at all? I don't mind not being the best guy in the party as long as I'm not super gimped.

If not does anyone know a build that similiar to this one? (Dwarf STR-based TWF rogue).

[EustaceTrevelyan]

Not anymore (as of U9). you get +50% extra damage vs them, as with all helplessness-inducing effects.

And I don't see that anywhere on that Wiki page that anyone can edit



As much as you can get?

Get the most STR you can (because you'll want that anyway), and use a weighted weapon if you need to.


As for Falchion vs. Greataxe, Barbarians are not limited to using one weapon, as Kensais are. You can use both. Greataxe is better vs 100%, might be better against 50% fort bosses (but probably not if you have decent DPS), but Falchion is much better against most trash.

/this, except against 100% fort while gaxe is better than falchion, gsword beats em both. I haven't run the numbers, but the thing about the gaxe was the autocrits from held and stunned mobs. Now that that's gone, i'm thinking that now it's falchion after about 30 str (28 on a horc with dmg Enh) for non fort, and gsword 100% fort, but as for inbetween, not sure where falchion leaves off.

But my gut feeling is that unless you're a dwarf and so should use gaxe when not using falchion (there's a damage mod formula somewhere that tells you when, too lazy to search), most ppl should switch to gsword, since double the crits at 2/3 the crit mult will get you ahead in the long run, or even not that long, since the crits won't necessarily be so huge they're wasted.

Of course, GS, eSoS, etc all bets are off, and if someone has some nice cold hard numbers that prove me wrong but settle it one way or another with teh new mechanics (no autocrit and now more fort), i'll be the first to thank em


EDIT: I freely admit the gaxe is the most bada*s looking weapon, so there's that.