i know its far from perfect, but thats why i'm posting it.
feedback is appreciated
this is just a preliminay build, alot of decisions were made because i honestly couldn't finbd anything better to take. i know the intimidate is too low to be effective, but couldnt find a better skill to take.i skipped UMD due to the fact it'd never come even NEAR 20,which is wat you need to bypass race reqs.Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male (20 Fighter) Hit Points: 426 Spell Points: 0 BAB: 20\20\25\30\30 Fortitude: 16 Reflex: 6 Will: 5 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats (34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Strength 18 23 26 Dexterity 10 10 10 Constitution 18 18 18 Intelligence 8 8 8 Wisdom 8 8 8 Charisma 8 8 8 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 2 11 Bluff -1 2 Concentration 4 7 Diplomacy -1 2 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle -1 -1 Heal -1 1 Hide 0 0 Intimidate 3 28 Jump 4 9 Listen -1 -1 Move Silently 0 0 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair -1 -1 Search -1 -1 Spot -1 -1 Swim 4 8 Tumble n/a n/a Use Magic Device n/a n/a Level 1 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+2) Skill: Intimidate (+4) Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting Level 2 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Level 3 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Soldier of the Faith Level 4 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Level 5 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Level 6 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Selected) Diehard Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting Level 7 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Level 8 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Level 9 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Level 10 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Slicing Blow Level 11 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Level 13 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Level 14 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave Level 15 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 16 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Level 17 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Level 18 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 19 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Level 20 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Brutal Throw Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV Enhancement: Fighter Weapon Alacrity Enhancement: Kensei Greataxe Mastery I Enhancement: Kensei Greataxe Mastery II Enhancement: Kensei Greataxe Mastery III Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy IV Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization I Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization II Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II Enhancement: Improved Intimidate III Enhancement: Fighter Strength I Enhancement: Fighter Strength II Enhancement: Fighter Strength III Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV
definitly some feats in there i'm iffy about,but as i said couldnt think of better at the time
i took the secondary Pally past life feat cause i had room for it and the clicky is nice for a melee
multiple toughness feats for added hp and cause i couldn't think of anything better
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06-03-2011, 04:44 AM #1Community Member
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a fighter TR build that needs some help
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20 is easy enough. 11 Ranks + 2 Charisma (8 base + 6 item) + 4 Greater Heroism + 1 Luck (Voice of the Master) + 2 Human Versatility I (only costs one AP) = 20.
Originally Posted by Asmodeus451
You could shift those two points from Dex to Int to get the extra skills.
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06-03-2011, 06:34 AM #3Community Member
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Or drop CON from 18 to 16 (no big deal, especially since he is planning multiple Toughness feats) and spend those 6 build points for INT and/or CHA. Originally Posted by Dirichlet
In case you decide to go for UMD, I would also drop Slicing Blow (or one Toughness feat or Diehard or Brutal Throw) and get Skill Focus: UMD.
Quickdraw wouldn't be bad on a Kensai build.On Thelanis: Hallelujah (EK wraith) - Jerryrigged Juggernaut (Fiend Warlock) - Sepulchral (Druid) - Chopchopchop (Monk) - Alleyshadow (retired gimped monkcher). Formerly on Keeper : Misericordia (Thug) - Mumbo Jumbo (Battle Caster) - Infernal Can (WF Kinda Cleric) - Halleluyah (Melee Spellsinger).
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i could drop dex for int and drop a toughness or something for Skill focus: UMD
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06-04-2011, 03:35 AM #5The Hatchery
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As others have said, I'd ditch slicing and die hard.
Quick Draw and Stunning Blow are nice feats, would definitely get those.
I'm not sure how good cleaves are atm, maybe someone has some insight into that?
Critical accuracy IV and flanking are waste of AP, IMO. You could get tactics or human con/str or something instead.
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probably gonna switch something out for Quick Draw so i can kill mobs i cant reach faster.
no stunning blow cause DC for it would be too low to be worth anything.
Human adapt would be a waste of AP as it would leave me with odd numbers in 2 stats
flanking bonus was only taken to qualify for AP spent prereqs.
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Since you are so feat heavy I would look at switching from Human to H-orc (if you have the race available).
I will mimic what some others have already said...
Dropping 2 CON for 2 INT (so you get +1 skill point per level) and 4 CHA (+2 intimidate and +2 UMD) is a good idea, you can afford the drop in HP, plus if train UMD you can chnage your alignment to True Neutral and still be able to wield any weapon.
Critical Accuracy IV is a waste of AP, the only reason to take I-III is to qualify for Kensei.
Quick Draw is a good feat to have (when you have lots of feats), I love the extra little bit of time it saves me when I use my action boosts and switch weapon sets.
Have fun with your build!
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Instead of two pretty useless cleaves why not take 2 ranks of dragonmark of passage?First one gives expeditious retreat which may not be oh so great,but the second rank gives Dimension Door usable twice per rest which is very useful imo.
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played around with the builder a bit, and it turns out that if i d as suggested and drop con to 16, i lose 20 HP, for only 12 ranks in UMD. not worth it IMO. Even dropping a feat and grabbing SF: UMD only bumps to 15.
i'd love to swap cleave and great cleave for dragonmarks but i only took those to fill fighter bonus feats, so cant.
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Because it only counts ranks, cha bonus on the sheet and SF:UMD. Originally Posted by Asmodeus451
played around with the builder a bit, and it turns out that if i d as suggested and drop con to 16, i lose 20 HP, for only 12 ranks in UMD. not worth it IMO. Even dropping a feat and grabbing SF: UMD only bumps to 15.
i'd love to swap cleave and great cleave for dragonmarks but i only took those to fill fighter bonus feats, so cant.
You can get a nice UMD by: 11 ranks +4 cha (12base+6item) +3SF+2Head of good fortune+4GH=24. Could get higher with golden cartouche:27, GS cha skills:33. etc.
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Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 True Neutral Human Male (20 Fighter) Hit Points: 408 Spell Points: 0 BAB: 20\20\25\30\30 Fortitude: 15 Reflex: 6 Will: 5 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats (34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Strength 18 23 27 Dexterity 10 10 10 Constitution 16 16 17 Intelligence 10 10 10 Wisdom 8 8 8 Charisma 12 12 12 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Balance 1 11 11 Bluff 1 1 4 Concentration 3 3 6 Diplomacy 1 1 4 Disable Device n/a n/a n/a Haggle 1 1 1 Heal -1 -1 1 Hide 0 0 0 Intimidate 5 24 33 Jump 4 8 8 Listen -1 -1 -1 Move Silently 0 0 0 Open Lock n/a n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a n/a Repair 0 0 0 Search 0 0 0 Spot -1 -1 -1 Swim 4 8 8 Tumble 1 1 1 Use Magic Device 3 12 15 Level 1 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+4) Skill: Tumble (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device 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06-05-2011, 05:32 AM #12Community Member
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NO. just NO Originally Posted by Arkadios
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