Aero - Helf(Rogue) AA Kensei(bow) III

[OldAquarian]

If nothing else be very good at one thing
Unfortunately this build focuses on Ranged
Fortunately it makes Ranged reasonable

Kensei III adds a lot to base damage - Helf(Rogue) adds 3d6 Sneak Attack (up to 15 meters now)
a 19 BAB plus Kensei and a decent DEX adds a lot to attack

Burst Damage via Manyshot
Great Burst Damage via Kensei Poswer Surge
Turbo Burst Damage from Rage (once per rest)

Increased base run + run Boost

Emergency Escape via Perform (2x per rest)

Higher than normal damage between Multishots - but stays with bows the whole time - if all else fails shoot em in the face

Note +2 DEX Tome is the only one that is Required

Skills: Tumble 1 - MAX: UMD, Perform, and rest mostly in Balance
(Bard unlocks Perform and Balance)

Comments please

EDIT: Some tweaks based on feedback - note that Stat raised at 12 is DEX not STR

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Aero 
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Male
(18 Fighter \ 1 Barbarian \ 1 Bard) 
Hit Points: 404
Spell Points: 90 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 13
Will: 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    24
Dexterity            16                    20
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         14                    16
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7


Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Barbarian)


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 5 (Fighter)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons


Level 7 (Fighter)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Bow Strength


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Precision
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery II
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery III
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III
Enhancement: Fighter Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Longbow Specialization II
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Half-Elf Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV

Skills:

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Aero 
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Male
(18 Fighter \ 1 Barbarian \ 1 Bard) 
Hit Points: 404
Spell Points: 90 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 13
Will: 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    15
Bluff                 3                     7
Concentration         2                     6
Diplomacy             3                     7
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                     0
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  3                     5
Intimidate           -1                     3
Jump                  7                    13
Listen                2                     3
Move Silently         3                     5
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               3                    23
Repair                2                     3
Search                2                     3
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  7                    11
Tumble                4                     6
Use Magic Device      3                    23

Level 1 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Listen (+3)
Skill: Perform (+4)
Skill: Swim (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)


Level 2 (Barbarian)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 4 (Fighter)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 16 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 19 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

[aggravated]

If nothing else be very good at one thing
Unfortunately this build focuses on Ranged
Fortunately it makes Ranged reasonable[/code]

ive seen this build in action and was impressed with the ranged capabilities of it. that being said. i dont like that there there isnt a melee option. no twf, no power att. ive got a 12ftr/6rgr/2monk aa and its VERY obvious when mini shot is on timer. ur best dps when its on cool down is melee. plain and simple. im sure u know all of this. but over all i cant see anything wrong with the build or concept other than the lack of melee options. hope u enjoy it (or are enjoying it if ur already lvling it).

[unbongwah]

Not sure I think +10% run speed is more valuable than free Bow STR from rgr splash, but regardless: why not take barb at lvl 2 so you can benefit from it right away? Sure, you delay your first few ranged feats an extra lvl, but is that such a big deal?

You could drop the two extra Toughnesses, Precision, and Quick Draw for TWF (or THF) x3 and PA. Can't think of anything to drop for IC Slash, though (which is part of why I'd rather have rgr splash).

You maxed Perform, Balance, and Jump but not UMD nor Intim? Ummm...okay...

What if you started base stats 16 / 16 / 14 / 14 / 8 / 8; put 1 lvl-up into DEX and the rest into STR; so final stats w/+2 Supreme tome are 22 / 19 / 16 / 16 / 10 / 10. Add ftr STR III and HE STR I for STR 26. I believe you come out with higher STR and only give up that stray pt you put into CHA.

[OldAquarian]

Not sure I think +10% run speed is more valuable than free Bow STR from rgr splash, but regardless: why not take barb at lvl 2 so you can benefit from it right away? Sure, you delay your first few ranged feats an extra lvl, but is that such a big deal?

You could drop the two extra Toughnesses, Precision, and Quick Draw for TWF (or THF) x3 and PA. Can't think of anything to drop for IC Slash, though (which is part of why I'd rather have rgr splash).

You maxed Perform, Balance, and Jump but not UMD nor Intim? Ummm...okay...

What if you started base stats 16 / 16 / 14 / 14 / 8 / 8; put 1 lvl-up into DEX and the rest into STR; so final stats w/+2 Supreme tome are 22 / 19 / 16 / 16 / 10 / 10. Add ftr STR III and HE STR I for STR 26. I believe you come out with higher STR and only give up that stray pt you put into CHA.

Appreciate your feedback as always

No Intim - I'm ok with - don't think I want aggro on this build
But UMD - ya, juggled lots of alts for the 1/1 and rebuilt for Perform, forgot UMD
Thinking of switching to MAX Perform/UMD - rest in Balance (can use UMD for Jump)

Barb at 2 - I kept it later to help fill in Balance - But will switch to UMD so no need to delay it

Stat Juggle - not sure where to get the AP for STR III - but will see what I can figure out

[Hafeal]

Interesting. I like the idea of a niche build like this - although a ranger splash seems to be the better fit (probably such a build around somewhere I have forgotten about) and gets you 2WF for hand-to hand time.

I really don't see what the Bard level does for this build.

With your skills, I would cap Jump at 20 or so - that is all you need. I would then max Balance (for places like Titan), and build up Spot (you are ranging after all) and then do some points in swim or heal (I like to not have to chug pots after shrining) and whatever other skills float your boat (like MS or Hide for sniping).

3 Toughness feats is too much for a ranged build imo; 1 should be plenty. That gives you 2 to help give you some manageable hand-to-hand dps with 2wf; I am mind-cramping atm but if arrows are pierce, you could take that feat and equip a comparable hand weapon.

[gurgar78]

Going to be doing a very similar build myself as soon as I TR, but mine has a bit different stat distribution and substitutes ranger for barbarian. I also walk away with all three TWF feats, Khopesh and IC: Slash.

My starting stats will be:

Str 16
Dex 17
Con 16
Int 10
Wis 8
Cha 9

Max UMD, the rest in balance.

Should be good times. I've already got a Sinew Bow waiting for me. Can't wait to see some crits after all the seeker and Kensai damage is added in.

I also plan to take Ranger Dilettante until I actually slip my ranger level in and then swap in Rogue Dil

[unbongwah]

- although a ranger splash seems to be the better fit (probably such a build around somewhere I have forgotten about)

There are a few in this thread.

I really don't see what the Bard level does for this build.

UMD and meets AA pre-req; Kensai III AA builds need some sort of caster splash.

I also plan to take Ranger Dilettante until I actually slip my ranger level in and then swap in Rogue Dil

Outta curiosity, what does delaying your rgr lvl get you?

[floating]

There is a melee option with this build. Ending str is 22. Add in +6 item +2 tome +3 exceptional and you are at 33. Ship 35 and either a +3 tome or chrono set or litany and you are sitting at a respectable even number. So pull out a two hander and twitch it. There... the no feats required melee option.

[gurgar78]

Outta curiosity, what does delaying your rgr lvl get you?

Early feat progression is one level faster if I start taking the fighter levels sooner and the ability to dump more of those ranger skill points into balance.

I'll probably do something like this:

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Level 20 Neutral Good Half-Elf Male
(18 Fighter \ 1 Ranger \ 1 Bard) 
Hit Points: 356
Spell Points: 110 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 16
Will: 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             16                 21                   24
Dexterity            17                 20                   22
Constitution         16                 18                   18
Intelligence         10                 12                   12
Wisdom                8                  8                    8
Charisma              9                 10                   10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    18
Bluff                 3                     7
Concentration         3                     7
Diplomacy            -1                     3
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                     4
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  3                     6
Intimidate           -1                     3
Jump                  7                    12
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         3                     6
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               2                     3
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     1
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  3                     7
Tumble                4                     7
Use Magic Device      3                    23

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Point Blank Shot


Level 4 (Fighter)


Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Rapid Shot


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons


Level 8 (Fighter)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery II
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery III
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III
Enhancement: Fighter Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Longbow Specialization II
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Dexterity I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Half-Elf Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Half-Elf Improved Trap Sense I

[OldAquarian]

There is a melee option with this build. Ending str is 22. Add in +6 item +2 tome +3 exceptional and you are at 33. Ship 35 and either a +3 tome or chrono set or litany and you are sitting at a respectable even number. So pull out a two hander and twitch it. There... the no feats required melee option.

+1 - that is always an option - Note that with latest tweaks you get 2 more STR
Only thing I couldn't fit was Fighter STR III - but thats a lot of AP for +1 damage

[SickCat]

I have a lvl 20 toon like this. I built him before 1/2 elves, however, so he's built as a regular 'ol run-o-the mill Elf. I originally took Bard, but ended up building it out of the final version in favor of one level of Wizzy. The reason is, Wiz will give you a free class feat choice that can satisfy the AA req so no blown feat, and no need to use enhancement points to open AA. I then took a lvl of rogue (at lvl 1) for max UMD and 1d6+3 sneak damage. He's built so he can pull out a couple weapons and move in for melee pwnage, although, he doesn't really pwn at the melee stuff...nor does he pwn at range, since range is pretty bad at this point...manyshot excluded.

A different take could be one lvl of wizzy, and one lvl of ranger for the free wiz feat, and the free bow str, but you'd lose out on UMD from rogue and the little bump to sneak damage.

Anyway, you can certainly build in TWF and even support it with enhancements after filling out your ranged stuff. I still think having two tier 3 PrE's is cool...even if it still doesn't make ranged viable for HARD CORE END GAME PWNAGE!!!!!! /lesigh

[unbongwah]

If you rearrange your feats a bit, you could take Power Atk early on and use that to qualify for Bow STR; delay, say, Prec Shot and/or WS Ranged so you can beef up your melee DPS ASAP. THF or TWF feats can be added later.

[OldAquarian]

If you rearrange your feats a bit, you could take Power Atk early on and use that to qualify for Bow STR; delay, say, Prec Shot and/or WS Ranged so you can beef up your melee DPS ASAP. THF or TWF feats can be added later.

lol, or I could leave him ranged only
I know, melee is better than archer downtime, but with Kensei III the margin is closed
Especially with Imp Prec and Slayer Arrows

[Hafeal]

There are a few in this thread.
UMD and meets AA pre-req; Kensai III AA builds need some sort of caster splash.

Been away for a few days. As stated later in the thread, I think Wizard is better. Perform is just wasting skill points you could use elsewhere and also gives you UMD - you are not goiung to be doing an real cc'ing with the build.

I suppose CLW is ok early on but not worth the Bard splash; generally Bard's are just not made to splashed, imo.

[OldAquarian]

Been away for a few days. As stated later in the thread, I think Wizard is better. Perform is just wasting skill points you could use elsewhere and also gives you UMD - you are not goiung to be doing an real cc'ing with the build.

I suppose CLW is ok early on but not worth the Bard splash; generally Bard's are just not made to splashed, imo.

Haven't heard that this has changed:
Activate this bard ability to make your foes stop what they're doing and listen to your soothing notes. Requires 3 trained ranks (not total mod) of the Perform skill to use. Has a save DC of your perform skill plus the roll of a twenty-sided die.

You could take skills other than perform - not a major change - I just liked the 'uh oh' button (or 2)

Not really sure what wizard would grant - since this build has plenty of free feats - and I'm not interested in blowing out melee - and you're the first person I've seen advising not to get UMD

[Hafeal]

Haven't heard that this has changed:
Activate this bard ability to make your foes stop what they're doing and listen to your soothing notes. Requires 3 trained ranks (not total mod) of the Perform skill to use. Has a save DC of your perform skill plus the roll of a twenty-sided die.

You could take skills other than perform - not a major change - I just liked the 'uh oh' button (or 2)

Not really sure what wizard would grant - since this build has plenty of free feats - and I'm not interested in blowing out melee - and you're the first person I've seen advising not to get UMD

I don't see perform as being a good focus or efficient use for you, especially late in the game. As a tactic play on the build - Perform would require you to be up front (and you have no focus currently on MS or Hide) - with weaker melee ability. As a back-line DPSer, I would imagine Perform would be mostly wasted. And, as a practical matter, if you plan on PUGGing, few groups are patient enough to let Perform do its job - at least that's what my bard tells me. But, hey, try it out.

You has said AA in response to me earlier, thus Wiz should fit the bill as SickCat had pointed out was my same thought.

[OldAquarian]

I don't see perform as being a good focus or efficient use for you, especially late in the game. As a tactic play on the build - Perform would require you to be up front (and you have no focus currently on MS or Hide) - with weaker melee ability. As a back-line DPSer, I would imagine Perform would be mostly wasted. And, as a practical matter, if you plan on PUGGing, few groups are patient enough to let Perform do its job - at least that's what my bard tells me. But, hey, try it out.

You has said AA in response to me earlier, thus Wiz should fit the bill as SickCat had pointed out was my same thought.

As I said - you can skip perform - but UMD?

[Hafeal]

As I said - you can skip perform - but UMD?

Meh - I find UMD to be generally over-rated as the game has developed. Do you have specific gear or healing concerns that the build 'requires' UMD? You could always invest some of your extra points into it and get it high enough for plenty of gear even as a cross-skill.

[azmodeus1]

when i picked up a fighter in a group that i saw using a bow [or any range character] i think "****, another ranged player who is low dps, low defense, and will actually hinder the party kiting a singular mob around long after the encounter should be over." ...and most likely find some excuse to dump you before the next quest.

ranged combat really needs a fix. i've played with good ranged characters...really i have... but most are just so bad, its gotten a reputation it generally deserves.

just saying a well geared ranged character can be effective dps, and extremely good burst dps, but you will face discrimination so be geared, and distiguish yourself as an effective ranged player and not just another fail bow user.

[OldAquarian]

Just for fun:
You could trade off some hitpoints for a weapon finesse rapier backup melee
Note that Monk level is just for the free feat and STR bonus to damage is capped since I used the Ranger Dilly for Bow Strength
This also loses the Rogue Dilly extra damage but you can't have it all
You could drop weapon finesse to get the actual bow strength feat back and go with the rogue dilly but then you won't get as much mileage from Power Attack

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Duress 
Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(18 Fighter \ 1 Monk \ 1 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 344
Spell Points: 285 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 16
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    18
Dexterity            16                    26
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         14                    16
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Ranger
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Point Blank Shot


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: DEX


Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Rapid Shot


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery II
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery III
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Armored Agility I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III
Enhancement: Fighter Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Longbow Specialization II
Enhancement: Improved Ranger Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Ranger Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Ranger Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Half-Elf Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III

But, if I wanted a melee option for the OP build - I'd probably just swap out the later toughnesses for Power Attack and Imp Crit:Slash and Twitch - as well as swap Perform for Max Balance - rest in Jump - but that's not this thread