Shroud Puzzles - In Game Practice

[Aurora1979]

I wish people wouldn't post links to solvers. Solvers do not help, they encourage laziness, which doesn't help if you make a mistake and have to input everything to your solver again.

The link that Fool101 posted is much more useful. It is way faster to solve the puzzles without a solver once you know how they work - and the shroud ones are NOT hard once you've practiced. The links to solvers allow you to practice but its trial and error. The thread Fool101 linked to is much more useful.

It takes all of about ten minutes to 'get' how each of the puzzles works once you understand the puzzle mechanic works, and then its just a question of how good your mario skills are in game. If you make a mistake you can still solve the puzzle.

And because the mario skills are the real problem here, I /sign the idea of some practice puzzles scattered around the Vale. That would make quite a lot of sense thematically as well, its a neat solution.

Drives me mad when I'm in shroud doing a 5x5 and someone says 'you want me to put it in the solver?'. Invariably by the time they have, I've solved the **** thing and they just needed to be patient. I think in future I'm just going to tell them that I'm using one to get them to clam up.

I always use the solver. 3 years in the game and Im just bad at puzzles. I know the top down routine, I can even make it work sometimes but the solver is just easier.

I know way beforehand that im going to need it so i already have it up on I.E ready for me to alt-enter and use. My record so far was solving my own 5x5, 2 3x3 and a 4x4, plus running my own water for first puzzle. Its not slow really. For you it may be quicker to just do it but seriously, for me, even after having practised and to an extent being able to do them its just faster for me to take 30 seconds to use the solver then 10 seconds to lay the pattern..... actually, both those times are random picks.... but I Do find it quicker.

I understand what your saying, and ideally everyone would be able to do the puzzle but you have to remember, somethings only easy if you find it easy to do. For some people sequence puzzle type things are just a mental block. The lag etc as you mentioned is also, probably the biggest, factor... number of times i miss the jumps is terribad.

EDIT: Just to add my vote to the OP /signed.

i wonder... maybe next time they release a F2P quest they could add one of these types of puzzle in. Maybe random as to the number, 5x5 4x4 or 3x3..... just some barely consequental door but with no timer and not having 11 people waiting on you and calling you a noob might help some folks

[Fejj]

i wonder... maybe next time they release a F2P quest they could add one of these types of puzzle in. Maybe random as to the number, 5x5 4x4 or 3x3..... just some barely consequental door but with no timer and not having 11 people waiting on you and calling you a noob might help some folks

This is what I'm talking about. Being yelled at by 11 other people because you are slow to solve your puzzle is not fun.

Any way to get in game practice would be great.

Perhaps a special instance in a tavern. Don't they already have private PVP rooms? Could you not make a private puzzle room??

[TheDearLeader]

Hi there!

I've been considering doing this for a while, so...

Without further ado, I have made a guide for how to get "The Puzzle Solver" usable inside the DDO interface, using MyDDO!

Look at the link, love the link.

[dunklezhan]

I understand what your saying, and ideally everyone would be able to do the puzzle but you have to remember, somethings only easy if you find it easy to do. For some people sequence puzzle type things are just a mental block. The lag etc as you mentioned is also, probably the biggest, factor... number of times i miss the jumps is terribad.

Beleive it or not, I do understand - because *I* am terrible at puzzles. All puzzles. I've never been able to do them. I avoid crosswords, sudoku, IQ test type puzzles, the lot. I even had to try the giantish puzzle in Korthos a few times before I got it. But once the sequence is understood, I have a good memory. Which is (to me) a totally different thing.

The shroud ones specifically have an easy, repeating pattern, it only gets tricky when you have to try to move from bottom row back to top row.

I'm not really suggesting everyone should learn to do them. But the reliance on solvers by everyone and his dog I have seen lead to at least two near-wipes in the dozen or so shroud runs I've done - all of them down to someone making a mistake and not knowing how to correct it without putting it into their solver, which takes them more time and then BAM, the wall. And that just can't be right.