Stormreach Navy S.E.A.L

[AndyD47]

You do know that there are grenades in DDO right?
Not to mention throwing in most every system I've played was governed by strength.
That's why I figure an almost pure rogue(or a small fighter splash) for a special forces type soldier,you get free repeaters and the ability to play with the stinks and bangs without being an actual arcane.

Also,where did I say anything about not taking DD in my vision of a modern soldier rogue,most folks I met were pretty handy to have around when something needed fixing (or breaking for that matter).
It'd be basically playing a technically proficient firebug,sounds like a fun to me.

I suggested skill focus:umd just so you can get up to no-fail heal scrolls easier and you have more than enough spare feats for it.
If you don't feel like you need a 39 umd that's on you,but it'd be a big help and step towards healing in later game content when your wand whipping just won't cut it.
Really,have you thought about going elf for AA?
Maybe switch things around so you use a bow,between manyshot and sneak attack you should put out some kind of nice damage.

On a side note,how exactly are those two extra toughness helping your dps?

[Ngha]

You do know that there are grenades in DDO right? yeah just couldn't figure out how to focus on repeater and still use them effectively, but since someone suggested halfling I think I figured it out.

Also,where did I say anything about not taking DD in my vision of a modern soldier rogue,most folks I met were pretty handy to have around when something needed fixing (or breaking for that matter). Was actually a joke about rogues critically failing their DD roll, guess I'm the only one who thought it was funny
It'd be basically playing a technically proficient firebug,sounds like a fun to me.indeed

Really,have you thought about going elf for AA?
Maybe switch things around so you use a bow,between manyshot and sneak attack you should put out some kind of nice damage.I did actually spend about 30 minutes thinking it over, however repeaters feel more m16 to me

On a side note,how exactly are those two extra toughness helping your dps?I meant I could take two toughness instead of three to improve my dps. by switching from human to halfling.

I'm currently working on an alternate, 7rogue/7fighter/6ranger Mechanic/kensei/deepwood sniper that had only a little less hp but better overall. I'll edit the OP after I'm done playing rummy.

[AndyD47]

I got ya.
I think you'll have a lot of fun with the synergy between DWS and Mechanic,don't have it in me to be a pew-pew but that looks like fun.
Have you thought about dropping the fighter for more rogue or ranger levels?

[Ngha]

oh, here accuracy is dex for thrown weapons, damage is str. So I think I'll just keep str as a dump.

I have though about it (mechanic 2, better sneak attack), but If I do the consistant repeater damage will be less, and I don't consider any soldier(save those that fail their save against fear in combat) to not be able to bring the pain no matter what.

[Blank_Zero]

Otherwise, you guys get -1 for failure to pay attention to detail.

Wanna know something funny? You don't have enough rep to neg anybody

Also, repeater rogues aren't dps, they aren't endgame viable, and as far as flavor goes, this build is no SEAL.

But good luck with it. I'm sure its very well thought out.

[Ngha]

Wanna know something funny? You don't have enough rep to neg anybody

Also, repeater rogues aren't dps, they aren't endgame viable, and as far as flavor goes, this build is no SEAL.

But good luck with it. I'm sure its very well thought out.

I don't -rep, I -respect... and you just lost one.

[k1ngp1n]

I don't -rep, I -respect... and you just lost one.

I just have this... feeling... that no one here really cares when you carry an attitude like you do.

[Ngha]

I just have this... feeling... that no one here really cares when you carry an attitude like you do.

I just have this feeling... that... If you didn't care, you wouldn't post.



Anyways, I updated the build, thanks to the guys who gave me good advice, you know who you were.

More advice?

[toughguyjoe]

I think one of the main problems I have with this line of thinking is that it's an "Optimized" "Flavor" build.

If I can ever wrap my head around that, I'll give you the advice that leaks out afterwards.

[Ngha]

I think one of the main problems I have with this line of thinking is that it's an "Optimized" "Flavor" build.

If I can ever wrap my head around that, I'll give you the advice that leaks out afterwards.

lol, yeah I know, thanks man.

[Thaxlsillyia]

drop the 2 points in wisdom. add that to str or charisma if you are allergic to str. or add it to anything else other than wisdom. your spot is not all that importnat to spend 2 points on.
you need to aim for a umd of 39. 30 is cute but not very useful. (39 for using heal scrolls)

[Ngha]

drop the 2 points in wisdom. add that to str or charisma if you are allergic to str. or add it to anything else other than wisdom. your spot is not all that importnat to spend 2 points on.
you need to aim for a umd of 39. 30 is cute but not very useful. (39 for using heal scrolls)

STR because of halfling gimp carrying capacity. Also changed, I'll just get some owls wisdom scrolls. Thanks.

[Sillk]

Have you considered Half-Elf Monk 12/ Ranger 6 / Fighter 2?

You could have Arcane Archer (Elven), Ninja Spy, Ranger's Many Shot, Monk's Hand to Hand Combat, and even Camoflage as a Ranger Spell.

Use Mountain Stance III for the extra + to your crits, Zen Archery, TWF/ITWF for free, etc....

Would fit your theme and probably be effective too.

You could swap out the Fighter 2 for Rogue... but I wouldn't.

[Ngha]

Have you considered Half-Elf Monk 12/ Ranger 6 / Fighter 2?

You could have Arcane Archer (Elven), Ninja Spy, Ranger's Many Shot, Monk's Hand to Hand Combat, and even Camoflage as a Ranger Spell.

Use Mountain Stance III for the extra + to your crits, Zen Archery, TWF/ITWF for free, etc....

Would fit your theme and probably be effective too.

You could swap out the Fighter 2 for Rogue... but I wouldn't.

f2p build. secondly, thats not even close to the flavor I want to taste. read the OP again.

[joueur]

neg on that chummer

neg me pls.

[Ngha]

neg Me Pls.

+1 for the joke.

-1 for failure to catch the Shadowrun reference.

[Sillk]

thats not even close to the flavor I want to taste. read the OP again.

1. This is (supposed to be) an optimized flavor build.

2. This build only uses Heavy Repeating Crossbows after level 2

3. This build (is supposed to) fill a DPS slot.

The "flavor" you want is to use Repeating Crossbows, but "Optimized" and add DPS. The build you posted uses Repeating Crossbows, is in no way "Optimized" and won't add much DPS.

The build I suggested can be Optimized, adds DPS, and would use Many Shot over Repeaters.

Don't be too disappointed when you don't get much help when you react like this.

Otherwise, you guys get -1 for failure to pay attention to detail.

Anyways, anyone have real advice?

I don't -rep, I -respect... and you just lost one.

I just have this feeling... that... If you didn't care, you wouldn't post.

+1 for the joke. -1 for failure to catch the Shadowrun reference.

I don't think I have to tell you where you went wrong here. But it has to do with the first post in the thread.

[Ngha]

*points at Thread* Rise from your grave... *end pointing*


Anyways, build is now up to level 6 I believe with minimal gear (used this build to farm up some TP on another server). So far his DPS matches a few kensei builds of same level even though he hasn't got a prestige yet. Can get all traps for quests his level on elite no problem and some 2 levels up. Will report on build again after he gets first prestige.

[Ngha]

The "flavor" you want is to use Repeating Crossbows, but "Optimized" and add DPS. The build you posted uses Repeating Crossbows, is in no way "Optimized" and won't add much DPS.

The build I suggested can be Optimized, adds DPS, and would use Many Shot over Repeaters.

Don't be too disappointed when you don't get much help when you react like this.

I don't think I have to tell you where you went wrong here. But it has to do with the first post in the thread.

[Sillk]

I don't think I have to tell you where you went wrong here. But it has to do with the first post in the thread.

Welcome back from your "vacation"