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    Default Can't disjunct my pre-9.1 items

    I have 6 holy silver/evil outsider bane khopeshes that I made prior to update 9.1, some cold iron versions, as well as some anarchic adamantine/construct bane ones. Now that I've hit the new caps, I would like to upgrade these, but when I attempt to disjunct them, I get the following error message:

    (Standard): This recipe cannot be performed because the resulting item would surpass its current Maximum Enchantment Level.

    I am also unable to combine them with any of the shards of potential to change their maximum enchantment level.

    Khopesh blanks of these materials are fairly expensive and annoying to get, so I'd rather reuse the ones I already have than buy all new ones. It's also irritating to have put out the effort to level crafting, and then not be able to use it.

    I'm crossposting this in both the crafting and lamania crafting discussion forums.
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    Now, is this on live, or Lammania? some of the 9.1 changes on live aren't on the current lammania build...

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    Same thing here. All items that were disjuncted pre 9.1 didn't get the +5 maximum enchantment bonus, and apparently that makes it so it can no longer be upgraded past +5, can't have shards of potential added, and can't be disjuncted. Very annoying and I am in the same boat as you
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    Beta
    You take risks when using any game mechanic that is still in Beta. And it warns you of that every single time you step foot into the crafting hall. That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calebro View Post
    Beta
    You take risks when using any game mechanic that is still in Beta. And it warns you of that every single time you step foot into the crafting hall. That is all.
    This "beta" has also screwed up a lot of things for Monks, too. Monk handwraps not working, damage ship buff not stacking with Monk past life, etc.

    Just saying "it's in beta" doesn't mean that the broken things aren't broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybunnywilson View Post
    This "beta" has also screwed up a lot of things for Monks, too. Monk handwraps not working, damage ship buff not stacking with Monk past life, etc.

    Just saying "it's in beta" doesn't mean that the broken things aren't broken.
    This thread isn't about bugs that occurred with the introduction of crafting. This thread is about something that was crafted prior to a patch not being disjunctable post-patch.
    Anything having to do with crafting itself comes with a BIG warning as soon as you step into the crafting hall.

    Anything that happened which does not pertain to crafting is a completely separate matter entirely, and has no bearing in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calebro View Post
    This thread isn't about bugs that occurred with the introduction of crafting. This thread is about something that was crafted prior to a patch not being disjunctable post-patch.
    Anything having to do with crafting itself comes with a BIG warning as soon as you step into the crafting hall.

    Anything that happened which does not pertain to crafting is a completely separate matter entirely, and has no bearing in this thread.
    Except for the fact that telling someone that crafting is in beta also has no bearing on this thread either.

    The OP was kind enough to share his experience with the forum as a whole and you treated it as if he were whining.

    Who cares that it's in beta? OP, thank you for letting the forums know about your experience with this issue. If enough people report this problem, maybe Turbine will do something about it. Even though it is in beta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybunnywilson View Post
    Except for the fact that telling someone that crafting is in beta also has no bearing on this thread either.

    The OP was kind enough to share his experience with the forum as a whole and you treated it as if he were whining.

    Who cares that it's in beta? OP, thank you for letting the forums know about your experience with this issue. If enough people report this problem, maybe Turbine will do something about it. Even though it is in beta.
    Telling him that crafting is in Beta has everything to do with this thread. That's what the crafting hall warning upon entrance is all about. It's there specifically to stop people from coming and complaining as things change. It tells you flat out that things may change, and that anything you craft will be done at your own risk. If you accept that risk and craft anyway, don't be surprised or upset if and/or when things actually do change.

    The OP crafted something prior to the patch. The patch changed how that thing worked.
    He was warned, as were we all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calebro View Post
    Telling him that crafting is in Beta has everything to do with this thread. That's what the crafting hall warning upon entrance is all about. It's there specifically to stop people from coming and complaining as things change. It tells you flat out that things may change, and that anything you craft will be done at your own risk. If you accept that risk and craft anyway, don't be surprised or upset if and/or when things actually do change.

    The OP crafted something prior to the patch. The patch changed how that thing worked.
    He was warned, as were we all.
    I found a crafting bug. I submitted a bug report. I did NOT submit a support ticket and waste their time. I posted the bug in the relevant forums. I mention that I would appreciate a fix and why I think a fix is needed. I did NOT post a petulant whine about why the devs are so mean and hate us, and I actually like the crafting system very much.

    Which of these do you have a problem with? I am lost as to why you are even posting.
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    Crafting is in Beta, therefore the OP is a Beta Tester. The OP has encountered what he believes is a replicatable bug, and is doing his level best to have it corrected.

    Thanks, OP. +1 to you.


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    I think Slash is just pointing out its a bug that needs to be fixed. Crafting an item should not make that item invalid for disjunction. Nothing in the crafting system thus far has indicated that would be the case. If it's WAI, the "non-disjunctableness" needs to be clearly stated when you put the last effect on it.
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    He's pointing out an error, but it's unlikely to get fixed.

    The bug only occurs with items crafted between pre U9.1, which means it's not a continuing bug and is probably low priority. This is unfortunate for those who crafted +6 or greater items before U9.1 hit (such as myself), but there are more important bugs to fix in DDO.

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    add more shards of potential

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleep_Wurp View Post
    add more shards of potential
    you can't. all items crafted before 9.1 don't have the base +5 potential. the lowest potential you can add is +6, and if it isn't +5 you can't add this potential shard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calebro View Post
    Telling him that crafting is in Beta has everything to do with this thread. That's what the crafting hall warning upon entrance is all about. It's there specifically to stop people from coming and complaining as things change. It tells you flat out that things may change, and that anything you craft will be done at your own risk. If you accept that risk and craft anyway, don't be surprised or upset if and/or when things actually do change.

    The OP crafted something prior to the patch. The patch changed how that thing worked.
    He was warned, as were we all.
    I have to agree with Calebro on this, it is one thing to warn people but it is another to whine about having to buy silver khopeshes (which may be relatively cheap in consideration to money used deconstructing/buying ingredients). The forums explicitly state that you present the problem through a bug report and not through the forums. Crafting IS in beta and it warns you support is unavailable (which you are asking for right now - to fix your khopeshes) and that you should craft at your own risk.

    edit: you also should have looked through the forums for the exact same thread: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=318932
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    +1 ing this as I have the same problem...

    Calebro, I think you're being of bad faith (hope that can be said in english, in french : de mauvaise foi) and your comments are not very constructive on the issue presented here.

    There are whining posts all over the forums about various things and the fact that the crafting system is in beta makes no difference.

    Pretty sure they can fix this with a stone of change repair recipe of some sort as they've done before for "broken" items.

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    Sounds we got used to see so many threads demanding fixes on stuff, but still let bugs be exposed.
    There's indeed the possibility that being beta the fixes may not be retroactive.
    Would be unfortunate but let's be hopeful and ask it get fixed in the bunch, priority or not.

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