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    Default min level 21 item?

    Has anyone tested this? If i craft +5 Holy handwraps of Greater lawful outsider bane technically it should be min level 21; is this actually true?

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    Believe i saw a SS of an item that could be 21, but was 20.

    So yea, probably clips the max lvl to 20, as it should be.. Since we will never get 21+.

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    It would be nice to get developer confirmation, as i and possibly many others will be wasting alot of essences if i cant use it.

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    We cap minimum levels of crafted items at the level cap. (Note that technically if the level cap were to change, so would the cap, and the item would update itself.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    We cap minimum levels of crafted items at the level cap. (Note that technically if the level cap were to change, so would the cap, and the item would update itself.)
    So the level cap is going to raise on characters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    We cap minimum levels of crafted items at the level cap. (Note that technically if the level cap were to change, so would the cap, and the item would update itself.)
    Quote Originally Posted by stainer View Post
    So the level cap is going to raise on characters?

    This could be interpreted in a million ways, expect to see a ton of threads now about the level cap -possibly- being raised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterling View Post
    This could be interpreted in a million ways, expect to see a ton of threads now about the level cap -possibly- being raised.
    We should start a couple of threads about how Eladrin has confirmed the level cap is being raised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterling View Post
    This could be interpreted in a million ways, expect to see a ton of threads now about the level cap -possibly- being raised.
    I often word things in ways that cause the most speculation and panic, because I'm capricious and mean.

    All it actually means is that we set it to cap at the level cap property, since it was convenient (and future-proof). If it did change at some point, those items would recalculate their ML.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    I often word things in ways that cause the most speculation and panic, because I'm capricious and mean.

    All it actually means is that we set it to cap at the level cap property, since it was convenient (and future-proof). If it did change at some point, those items would recalculate their ML.
    It is easier to go with you confirmed that you are raising the character level cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    We cap minimum levels of crafted items at the level cap. (Note that technically if the level cap were to change, so would the cap, and the item would update itself.)
    Starting thread about the level cap going up. BRB.

    Also, why didn't this show up in the dev tracker? Oh its on the Llama boards. Nevermind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainer View Post
    So the level cap is going to raise on characters?
    No.

    He gave an example using the word "if."

    If X then Y.

    X = if the level cap were to change
    Y = so would the cap (of minimum levels of crafted items).

    I think you wanted to add a or something similar to indicate that you know that's not what he said but that you're prodding him to talk about an increase in the level cap of characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaga_Nub View Post
    No.

    He gave an example using the word "if."

    If X then Y.

    X = if the level cap were to change
    Y = so would the cap (of minimum levels of crafted items).

    I think you wanted to add a or something similar to indicate that you know that's not what he said but that you're prodding him to talk about an increase in the level cap of characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stainer View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    I often word things in ways that cause the most speculation and panic, because I'm capricious and mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    We cap minimum levels of crafted items at the level cap. (Note that technically if the level cap were to change, so would the cap, and the item would update itself.)
    Interesting...any epic items coded in this manner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    We cap minimum levels of crafted items at the level cap. (Note that technically if the level cap were to change, so would the cap, and the item would update itself.)
    So this would seem to indicated we need not worry about crafting items that cannot be used by our capped characters.

    Very interesting...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokiewa View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    I often word things in ways that cause the most speculation and panic, because I'm capricious and mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Believe i saw a SS of an item that could be 21, but was 20.

    So yea, probably clips the max lvl to 20, as it should be.. Since we will never get 21+.
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    Well this is good to know. so no matter what I make, if it would exceed the ML cap it gets scaled back so that it will be usable by my level 20 Characters.

    IF in the future they raise the Level Cap, then the ML will change according and I'll be back to the grind.

    Thank you Eladrin

    Quick Question:

    Since Epic items are supposed to "Top Level" items, IF, you raised the level cap, would you also raise Epic items to the new level cap, or would they remain ML 20?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainer View Post
    It is easier to go with you confirmed that you are raising the character level cap.
    He's not the only one

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    The two specific questions that we received most often that I have not yet addressed related to when we will see the Druids or when we may see a level cap increase beyond level 20 and into Epic levels. I can confirm that we have made great headway in our work on these highly requested features

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