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    Default Greensteel items for plat

    Hello fellow Argonites.

    Due to a slight drop in my cash reserves recently (thank you very much crafting), I find myself tempted to open up my greensteel shop again.

    What would a fair price be for a greensteel items? Judging by the price of ingredients on the AH, I'd be a fool to offer them for my old price of 300kpp. So answer me this:

    How much would you pay for a greensteel item? How much if it required a large horn, but was included, and how much if it required a large horn but you had to provide it?

    I figure I can churn out about 75 items once I hit lvl 17 on Star (must be shroud flagged to make greensteel...), so ETA about June 1st the way things are going.
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    Never bought them for plat myself, as I've never really had all that much. I'd take a few for large ingreds or FRDS if you'd take them, though.

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    400k plat seems a fair enough price...

    PD: u cant take seriously the prices on AH... thoose r ridiculous!

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    honestly, for any blank, id say that it is worth at least 500k, probably more. (i would value it higher than one LDS, but some dont :[)
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    300-550k plat depending on the item.

    For example khopesh would be on the higher end of the spectrum... whereas a sickle not so much.

    Oh and my guildie still has a greensteel heavy crossbow mistake that nobody will take even if he pays them.
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    The equivalent of 1 lds per item.

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    Last life I was putting GS khops on the AH and they were selling for 600k plat BO... I sold 4 of them for that price. If you figure AH takes 30%, you and your customer split the diff you ought to get somewhere around 500k... At least that's what I would do... I was actually thinking of upping the rate for 1 GS item to 1 FRDS or 2 LDS... I think they are worth a bit more now since there isn't any new endgame scheduled to be released and peeps will now have time to work on alts. i.e. higher demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirdanile View Post
    300-550k plat depending on the item.

    For example khopesh would be on the higher end of the spectrum... whereas a sickle not so much.

    Oh and my guildie still has a greensteel heavy crossbow mistake that nobody will take even if he pays them.
    If the TC is taking blank orders I don't think it matters what the item is. He's still going to have to expend the same kinds of ingredients whether he's making a light mace or a khopesh. It'd be true that if I accidentally made a Heavy Crossbow item it'd be hard for me to find someone else to buy it off me, and I might have to give it away practically for free... but if I had a whole bunch of ingredients and someone asked me to make a Heavy Crossbow I'd expect to be payed the same as a Khopesh, else I might as well just decline and use the same ingredients to make someone else a Khopesh.

    Just throwing that out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedtouch View Post
    400k plat seems a fair enough price...

    PD: u cant take seriously the prices on AH... thoose r ridiculous!
    Actually I was assuming the ingredients would sell for half of the current AH values, and have recently successfully sold some ingredients at those prices as a test. You can put twigs and funk on the AH for 75kpp buyout and they sell within hours. The most expensive GS items take 5 of those (375kpp). If you assume the 7 other ingredients to be 10kpp or so each (pebble/fungi are more, husk/pettal less), thats about 450kpp for the ingredients alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    Actually I was assuming the ingredients would sell for half of the current AH values, and have recently successfully sold some ingredients at those prices as a test. You can put twigs and funk on the AH for 75kpp buyout and they sell within hours. The most expensive GS items take 5 of those (375kpp). If you assume the 7 other ingredients to be 10kpp or so each (pebble/fungi are more, husk/pettal less), thats about 450kpp for the ingredients alone.
    I agree with you, the value now exceed the old 1LDS=1blank. The problem is that for many that price point is still in their head and more just SEEMS expensive so I'm not sure what your market would be worth.

    The one thing I would say is that in grinding the xp/ingredients you probably have more than enough pie pieces so there is little cost to you there. I'd go for 500-600k plat and see what you get. If it doesn't work out, you might be better selling ingredients where the small transaction value lets people spend more without noticing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    I agree with you, the value now exceed the old 1LDS=1blank. The problem is that for many that price point is still in their head and more just SEEMS expensive so I'm not sure what your market would be worth.

    The one thing I would say is that in grinding the xp/ingredients you probably have more than enough pie pieces so there is little cost to you there. I'd go for 500-600k plat and see what you get. If it doesn't work out, you might be better selling ingredients where the small transaction value lets people spend more without noticing.
    Thats probably what i will end up doing. Though I don't look forward to putting 100+ of each ingredient on the AH one at a time... heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    Thats probably what i will end up doing. Though I don't look forward to putting 100+ of each ingredient on the AH one at a time... heh.
    In that case just mail them all to me and I'll take care of it. I just hope the mailman doesn't steal them cause then it would be hard to explain all that new GS I have...

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    I'd pay about 400k for a blank - otherwise I'd rather just farm abit and make it myself. I'm looking to make a GS Falchion soon if you are interested. If that's too low a price; I totally understand. I do see your reasoning with prices of the individual pieces.

    Anyway- good luck with your shop!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    Actually I was assuming the ingredients would sell for half of the current AH values, and have recently successfully sold some ingredients at those prices as a test. You can put twigs and funk on the AH for 75kpp buyout and they sell within hours. The most expensive GS items take 5 of those (375kpp). If you assume the 7 other ingredients to be 10kpp or so each (pebble/fungi are more, husk/pettal less), thats about 450kpp for the ingredients alone.
    like i said 400-450k pp seems pretty decent price and not expensive (u may want to consider the 33% that AH takes from u
    also u said u have WAY too many ingredients to sell/give away so i dont think u will mind 80-100k plat cheaper (not sure).

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    I paid one LDS each for 6 blanks not too long ago. To me it was well worth it considering I don't have any experience yet in the crafting of green steel.

    Since then, I am back up to 10 LDS. Now it's time for me to start upgrading my blanks.
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    Star just sell some of your ingredients on the AH I made 800k in 3 days just selling ingredients under AH standard do this a couple times and you are loaded again

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    Yeah I wouldn't go more than a straight trade of 1LDS. Greensteel blanks to me are the epitome of a convienience buy. Pie pieces are a sure thing if higher than casual is run, groups fill fairly quick, and extra ingredients sell even quicker at a good price.

    So the value to me seems to be a comparison of how much do I want the item right now versus how much am I really sick of soloing Coal Chamber.

    Where as something like The Bloodstone, an Ioun Stone, or eClaw Scroll could require countless hours of grinding with no amount of certainty that you'll ever pull what you're looking for.

    Also on the point about individual ingredient sales. I think it's worth noting that if people are buying a single Funk they've already ran the vale to get the pie and some ingredients. So I'd weight whatever price they're paying as the price they're paying to finish their item. I might pay 75-100K (Funk/Twig) for that last piece, but I wouldn't pay that much for each piece.

    So if you're out to make plat and not build up on larges I think the best bet would be to AH the ingredients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoolZ View Post
    Yeah I wouldn't go more than a straight trade of 1LDS. Greensteel blanks to me are the epitome of a convienience buy. Pie pieces are a sure thing if higher than casual is run, groups fill fairly quick, and extra ingredients sell even quicker at a good price.
    Poor logic here. Since there are other ways to spend your time (i.e. grinding better loot) then opportunity costs will rise. Thus, if I take the time to run the vale and have the ingreds to craft an item, that means I had to forego the opportunity to grind scrolls etc. and I will want comensated for that decision.
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