Post-U9 lag

[donfilibuster]

The most lag i've experienced seems to be consistent. Marketplace lags when lots of ppl on. Meridia always seems to lag. Shroud lags when there's a lot going on. Area effect spells can cause lag especially when there's lots of them. Craft hall lags but i think it's same problem as marketplace. Too many ppl.

For crowd lag try checking if your 'object distance' and 'crowd quality' options can improve it when tuned.
Object distance is fine in ultrahigh while on quests but if it gives you lag on public or big areas like the market and the sub then may want to turn it on and off as needed.
Crowd quality helps on public areas near crowded spots like the bank, auctioneer, mailbox, cannith devices, etc.

Also, it may add up to the inventory loading lag so try log out at some clear spot and not right at the banker, specially at the crafting hall.

Naturally, these things only apply if you confirm it is an issue for you (after trying tweaking the settings).
Remember some people may or not get certain kinds of lag so no need to dismiss issues if you don't have them.

[Nire_CrimsonFantasy]

Sarlona Server

Time-Anytime I'm on. Usually evening-late night. 5:30, 6,EST to whenever.

Symptoms- Constant lag in public areas. Right when I log in (which takes a long time as well) it takes several minutes to be able to move or do anything, move mouse, etc. Chat screen will be static as well. Gameplay is 'choppy' through out public area-meaning it's pretty much constant lag-movement commands take several minutes (at last 5) to respond. I will have bursts of being able to move normally, then everything will become laggy/chopping again. Usually everything lags at the same time, chat windows animations, etc. I usually do not have a problem in dungeons, though I did a bit yesterday and have died due to lag in dungeons at least once.

System- Windows XP..cable modem, 59.23 GB free hard disk space, Intel Celeron Processor 3199MHZ,512 Ram (detected I don't know if this means how much I'm using or how much total I had at factory settings.)

I run DDO full screen mode, with graphics all down low. I have done some of the tips I've seen on forums-I set my connection speed in the userpreferences, and defragged (though I haven't done so after the last update).

Also, I've been experiencing getting froze at the log in screen at times, or else it is just so slow it seems froze. This has been happening frequently and is a new problem for me.

So yeah..I'm just getting frustrated with it now, It's nice to see a forum taking info though to try and fix it.

Add- I don't know if this was due to lag or my bad motor skills, but several hours ago I got stuck in Harbor. I couldn't move-it would show me moving but I was running in place. I was stuck between some NPC's. I tried changing my angle to get through them but I was still running in place. I tried jumping over them and I jumped but didn't move forward over them..Everything else seemed fine-not froze. I never did try and just back up and go around, until I switched instances. Then that worked, however I don't see why jump didn't. :/

[Calebro]

Your lag isn't Turbine's problem. Your lag is your system's problem.

512 Ram

There's your culprit.

Mind you, I'm not saying that you're not getting any lag from the server, but such a low amount of RAM is certainly going to magnify the issue dramatically.

[donfilibuster]

System- Windows XP..cable modem, 59.23 GB free hard disk space, Intel Celeron Processor 3199MHZ,512 Ram (detected I don't know if this means how much I'm using or how much total I had at factory settings.)

Unfortunately in this case none of the tips and nothing you do is going to help.
The listed system requirements probably date from 2006 when DDO was young and the dat files were small.
(http://support.turbine.com/ics/suppo...questionID=433)
I'd probably take a double core of 1.6 ghz each over a single core of 3 ghz.

RAM is definitely not enough, 1 GB gives you a lot of lag, 2 GB is not that expensive these days, 4 GB may be affordable.
8 GB maybe too much but you can go do extra work hours and it will be well worth all the lost time you spend lagging anyways.
But try see if you really have 512, maybe you had two sticks and one is damaged, which can be out of the blue.

Disk space shouldn't be an issue, though depends on the size of the disk wether those 59 GB make it half full or half empty.
If anything see if the disk swap is not dragging you down by the various tips including that if you relog often see that the process ends before restarting, which takes a while.
On vista i use a readyboost stick for this but on it's not on XP where maybe the only option is to make a partition.

That said, dun suffer it if you can, the game is a lot nicer on a new comp, but if you can't, then get a game pad and it'd be like playing on the graphics of nintendo 64

[Nire_CrimsonFantasy]

Calebro- Thanks for pointing out the problem. I'm not super tech savvy, but we have had this computer for quite some time now, so I'm not surprised it could be a big part of the problem. Just was hoping it wasn't.


Donfilibuster- Thanks for all the advice. I have a new laptop running windows 7, however I didn't want to bog it down with a heavy game. So I'll be looking into ram prices for the XP.

I'll try waiting to log out longer, see if it eventually does. I think it really is just that slow.
Whatever the case, some sort of lag is starting to affect gameplay more. Was doing Kabol Assault in Harbor and tried to recall since I couldn't really move, and the command did not seem to be responsive. Got my hirling and myself killed.

Ha! I still have my Nintendo 64. Haven't touched it in ages though.

[Calebro]

Calebro- Thanks for pointing out the problem. I'm not super tech savvy, but we have had this computer for quite some time now, so I'm not surprised it could be a big part of the problem. Just was hoping it wasn't.


Donfilibuster- Thanks for all the advice. I have a new laptop running windows 7, however I didn't want to bog it down with a heavy game. So I'll be looking into ram prices for the XP.

Check Newegg. I recently ordered a two card, 4gb upgrade for $33. You can find some great deals there if you look for them.

[Nire_CrimsonFantasy]

We are all wrong, the lag is nothing but D&D being alive and trying to return to being a turn based game.

Just saw this looking for my posts. XD

I checked my ram and it really is 512 MB. I plan on buying some from Newegg (found what I needed through the Kingston site). Unforuntetly Windows XP can only have a max of 2gigs according to the system info on the Kingston site. So hopefully that will work out. The ram didn't look damaged either. I'll post an update if I still experience lag after I get the new ram.

Check Newegg. I recently ordered a two card, 4gb upgrade for $33. You can find some great deals there if you look for them.

Yeah I like newegg. They have good prices. The ram's going to cost me 26.99 with free shipping. That's 2 cards as well. Wish I could get 4g for a few bucks more.

[Calebro]

That's a common misconception.
WinXP 32 bit can handle 4gb of RAM, but only 2gb can be allocated to any one application at a time. So as long as you're not running a bunch of stuff in the background while you're playing, there's little reason to have more than 2gb because it won't be utilized.
If you multitask often, more than 2gb helps.

[Nire_CrimsonFantasy]

Well darn, I jut put the order in for the 2gig. But I haven't had trouble multitasking very much (and I always have multiple tabs open.) plus, I don't use it as my main computer anyway, though other family members do. But I think it will be fine. I may browse for some 4gig though and change my order if I find a good price.

Edit-Oh but that means I won't have to remove the 512MB, which I thought I would have to do. Thanks Calebro

[bigolbear]

with the reintroduction of the ice games lag has increased masively again.

Its server lag, not client side.

Timing is random.

Its having a massive impact on bank /mail transactions. I would request the folowing:

no instacne switching in the harbour when the ice games are on. (or a 10 min cool down on it)

[donfilibuster]

Well darn, I jut put the order in for the 2gig. But I haven't had trouble multitasking very much (and I always have multiple tabs open.) plus, I don't use it as my main computer anyway, though other family members do. But I think it will be fine. I may browse for some 4gig though and change my order if I find a good price.

Even if the game doesn't take all the ram it'd be good to have more if only to let windows be happy.
You may still have to learn the fine art of relogging, since ram still fills after a while no matter how much you have.

[NaturalMystik]

Just wanted to mention that since the 10.2 update, DDO has been running smooth as butter for me. Over the last couple of nights I've been playing the smoothest shroud runs ever. I even turned up my texture detail to medium, which surprisingly makes a pretty big difference on the aesthetics.

Not sure if it's coincidence, but if some changes were implemented in this most recent update to address lag, I think it's helped me at least. Or it could be that I've finally found the magic bullet for my system settings to co-operate with DDO, but given the timing it seems most likely that something was fixed on Turbine's end...

Either way, it's much more fun to play now. So smooth it's greasy!

[Ungood]

Same here, the legendary Stairs of Lag, Did not lag in Shroud. It was... pleasing and unnerving at the same time

[Rumbaar]

Last night running 'Dead Shall Rise" Delera area around 10pm AEST [+10 GMT] the lag was almost unplayable.

It was for a few hours before this [but worse at that point, had to log off], experienced by many players within Guild around different providers and countries.

[kakandsak]

Last night running 'Dead Shall Rise" Delera area around 10pm AEST [+10 GMT] the lag was almost unplayable.

It was for a few hours before this [but worse at that point, had to log off], experienced by many players within Guild around different providers and countries.

Same here, on Kyber, running Shroud at around 9pm AEST [+10 GMT] the game was laggy and later with a different toon in Delera's glitchy as well, it was all running reasonably smooth prior to the update on Mon 25th

[Nire_CrimsonFantasy]

Oh, when was the last update? I haven't played since I'm waiting for the RAM. I'll have to check it out, but I have a feeling it will still be problematic for me...Eh I will check announcements myself. That's what they're for after all.

Even if the game doesn't take all the ram it'd be good to have more if only to let windows be happy.
You may still have to learn the fine art of relogging, since ram still fills after a while no matter how much you have.

I agree, more ram can never be a bad thing. ;0

[Khellendros13]

I noticed more lag now that crafting is back.

Epic Chrono last night and multiple people with 5-10%+ packet loss. The voiceovers were totally out of sync with the action or didn't trigger at all.

[Nire_CrimsonFantasy]

So I installed the 2 Gigs ram and it made an immediate difference. I could move my character right away, and it was never chopping or anything. I have been playing for at least 4 hours now, had no problems in town or in dungeons. I think the screen load time has possible gotten quicker as well. So at least my lag issue is solved, which means people who are having the same problems I was: if you havn't already, upgrade your RAM. I am greatful for the advice I received on here.

[Dark83]

Recently (as in within a week), I started to have the rare random lag I can't really see any cause for. I am on Cannith.

In Korthos I exit Sacrifices, turn right and head towards the three Sauhagin and shrines. 99% of the time, it's perfectly fine - for no reason last week I lagged while my party member was fine, and defeated them. She said she had the same problem the day before with random lag spikes. In the Harbour, my party was running through the Waterworks. Never had a problem before, the party turns around a bend, and I lag - freezing for a minute. No combat, no spell effects, nothing. Lag spike goes away and I continue towards the next quest.

It's not my computer - I have an HP Blackbird with 4GB of RAM and a GTX460SE 1GB. I've accidentally run another game while running DDO and suffered no performance lost. It's not my connection either - I've had Windows Update silently start updating, and I wouldn't have noticed if I didn't see it on my other monitor. No delay or loss of quality in voice (I actually have the delay turned down to almost 0 and never noticed any loss in quality). It seems recent... after the latest (small?) patch.

[donfilibuster]

No delay or loss of quality in voice (I actually have the delay turned down to almost 0 and never noticed any loss in quality). It seems recent... after the latest (small?) patch.

Just for the record, voice never stops as it seems to be on a different connection than the game data.
Also, all patches count for data file fragmentation, it adds up slowly and fairly unnoticeably.