Fav Soul build advice pls..

[IntrepidBear]

hey all, is me, 'Lem',
I have made myself a custom fav soul,
I'm used to wizzy's, sorc's.. casters mostly, and do have a cleric which I really enjoy... love my new WF fighter too.
so I thought to try a FS, and get a bit of the caster fighter thing going.

My FS is human, only level 8 right now, but I would like to have better mele power, with good damage spells.
What build base would you recommend?
Right now, I took longsword path, but it really does not cut it, mele damage wise. I should really have gone greataxe.. ???
I know if I take two handed fighting there is still the offhand penalty is there not?
Before I re-spec her, just thought to ask for some help.

I mean, my bard, warchanter path, is only lvl 9 right now, which is half elf, chose the extra fighter in the half elf option, and it just pounds the heck out of everything with two handed fighting. Added of course a plus 2 strength tome.

I suppose I want it all.. (don't we all?)
but seriously,
asking experienced FS gamers, what stats to start do I need to do, to have a good mele, and some good offensive spellcasting? Does it work???

thank you ..

[stoopid_cowboy]

Prolly not the right forum for this topic. But...

I really enjoy my Flavored Soul build. Decent DPS with a greataxe, but is lackin gin the casting DPS dept. Heals are no problem.
MyDDO Yudabomb if ya want.

yuda

[IntrepidBear]

oops,

I meant, in my post,
If I took two weapon fighting, I still get penalty with off hand, unless I can get extra feats to build it to large two weapon..
so should I take two handed.. greataxe??? for better mele??

thanks...

[IntrepidBear]

I clicked sarlona instead of custom builds.. lol..

[Ilindith]

If you want everything on one character, you'll just end up being average at everything. Pure FVS will always have the SP to heal, but if you want decent melee DPS, you won't have the stats to be an offensive caster, and if you want to have decent offensive spells, you wont have the stats to be melee. You CAN do it, but it will mean having sub-par stats everywhere.

If you want to melee, go full str/con, leftover cha to cast spells. If you want to cast, wis/cha/con.

I made my main character a melee FVS two times. Warforged, full STR/CON, 12 or 14 base CHA (can't remember) and leftover in int for skills. All level-ups in STR. Most efficient build I ever had. Lord of Blades enables you to use greatswords for decent DPS. Wide selection of buffs for better melee ability. FVS are too feat starved imo to go TWF, unless you splash some levels.

[HallowedOne]

I think you should first decide if you wanna be an ofensive spellcaster or a melee specc'ed one, because, of course, you WILL have to heal also. Trying to be both will be bad for you.

[stoopid_cowboy]

of course, you WILL have to heal also.

Please don't become another "I don't heal" favored soul.
I could care less if you are melee specc'd or not. You WILL have enough SP's to heal, not to mention spells to do so. What else are you going to take for a lvl9 spell?

/rant off

yuda

[mws2970]

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=268346

[IntrepidBear]

lol, not to worry cowboy, I'd heal.. no matter what, that's a given =)
even my sorc carries healing wands, xtra res scrolls, with her high Umd.

thanks for all the replies, I have to think it over hard now,
I did wonder about the wf build if I did go mele fvs, sounds good.. I'd have to start a new toon to try that...
I do have 34 build access.
This current toon being human is not a TR. I would like to have a couple more capped toons before I start TR'ing, and of course start making my greensteels once I know what classes I'll be TR'ing each one into. And, our 20's are after all, the plat builders... *wink.

Looks like I'll have to try both out. A mele build and an offensive casting build.
I may just re-spec the human, into a Fvs with good offensive spell base as I'm used to being a caster - love them spells. And ya, you are all right, I don't want to wimp out not being efficient in anything fully just to be able to bop an orc better in combat.

I'll keep my lvl 16 cleric as is, for times I just want to be a healing cleric, altho I do utilize my offensive spells, yep..especially when I'm solo'ing.. and most likely will keep a pure cleric whenever I start TRs.

((thanks guys!!))

[IntrepidBear]

hmm..
thanks for that link to Sirgog's info Mws,
that just might be the way to go when I TR my fighter.. make that Wf fav S. interesting..

oh, the choices we have !!

[mws2970]

You're welcome. This is my 2nd life as that build and it's a lot of fun.

[HGM-Chi]

hmm..
thanks for that link to Sirgog's info Mws,
that just might be the way to go when I TR my fighter.. make that Wf fav S. interesting..

oh, the choices we have !!

I have a 20 WF FvS and can vouch for how much fun it is. Good damage, and superb survivability. I'm also considering TRing my Elf 20FvS into a human FvS based on the same style as the WF one. The difference would be instead of going for high DR like a WF you have survivability through healing amp and Word of Healing. I'd go with the same str based setup and use the human bonus feat to take Falchion prof. So you'd be swinging a twohander (at less damage than the WF due to no AP enhancements) still have 10DR, and have pretty unlimited free healing. I think it would be a blast.

This is a Half-Elf version I found sitting on my HD... I'd rather go human and have a full extra feat, but you could go half-elf with fighter dil I guess (dunno why this one was using Monk, probably playing around):

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Kryzii-TR 
Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Female
(20 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 342
Spell Points: 1982 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 13
Will: 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    25
Dexterity             8                    12
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               14                    18
Charisma             10                    17

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance              -1                     5
Bluff                 0                     3
Concentration         7                    27
Diplomacy             0                     5
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                0                     3
Heal                  2                     6
Hide                 -1                     1
Intimidate            0                     3
Jump                  4                    12
Listen                2                     4
Move Silently        -1                     1
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                  2                     4
Swim                  4                     7
Tumble               n/a                    n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Favored Soul)


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 4 (Favored Soul)


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 7 (Favored Soul)


Level 8 (Favored Soul)


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity


Level 11 (Favored Soul)


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Falchion


Level 13 (Favored Soul)


Level 14 (Favored Soul)


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 16 (Favored Soul)


Level 17 (Favored Soul)


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 19 (Favored Soul)


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II

[Kages]

oops,

I meant, in my post,
If I took two weapon fighting, I still get penalty with off hand, unless I can get extra feats to build it to large two weapon..
so should I take two handed.. greataxe??? for better mele??

thanks...

A few things to think about bro, you can go Greataxe without even taking any two handed fighting feats, all the feats do is boost the damage of your glancing blows. Just take the Weapon Spec. Greataxe and leave the rest be, you can use those feats for maximize and such for your spells. If you already have Maximize then you can use it for toughness and the likes. Personally I went WF on my flavored soul to save the feat and use Greatswords, all of which are good ideas, but in the end it is all up to what you enjoy playing. They are diffecult to build, but I have seen many two weapon fighting builds work great, I can't justify using that many feats on a flavored souls limited number.

Another thing you have to keep in mind for a melee caster flavored soul is Wisdom/Charisma mods. Charisma only boosts your SP a bit, it is totally not required to have a higher cha than wis. When my flavored soul was dps/dc spec'd I didn't raise cha past 12 starting stat. Maxed Wis and put both str and con at 16. Then while leveling I put 2 points into str and 3 into wis via 4/8/12/16/20 stat points. With all the gear out there you can get I think my wis was a 38.

With the Avenger prestige and the addition of Divine Punishment I totally respec'd him for more of a DPS build, raised Cha, dropped Wis to a minimum on account of Divine Punishment having no save there was no need for DC. While healing a shroud (yes dps caster Flavored Souls are still healers) I have enough SP to solo heal with mana to spare and I get ticks of 1000+ per crit tick via Divine Punishment. True it doesn't crit every time, but I give it a 45% crit chance. Makes healing a bit more simple due to faster dps all around and while being in the group attacking to begin with I can keep Harry targeted and still get my heals off without having to worry about extra clicks. You get bonus dps being in fight, dps from divine punishment, and keep party alive via heals. I like the build, it works for me.

Like I stated previously it is all in how you play the game, fully geared out my flavored soul has a bit over 600 hit points so I dont have to worry about dying while in the mix. Not all people will start out all geared out though, you have to focus on what you want out of it. Don't flow to someone else's rhythm, play to your own beat.

[KalTheo]

I recommend Impaqt's "Superior Soul". Mine's currently lvl 16 and I love it.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=243539

[Kages]

I recommend Impaqt's "Superior Soul". Mine's currently lvl 16 and I love it.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=243539

Eh, getting help with a build is one thing. Copying someone else is just lazy. Just a personal preference though, I look down on no one except Burne.

[Ilindith]

Eh, getting help with a build is one thing. Copying someone else is just lazy. Just a personal preference though, I look down on no one except Burne.

Copying is not always just being lazy. When you encounter many people who have no patience for characters that are not efficient, sometimes it drives players to look for build that have proven to be very efficient, and they copy them. I guess it also gives them some kind of learning experience about what is needed or not and then they have more experience at building their own characters.

[Kages]

Whatever guys, neg rep me all you want. I said my personal preference, not yours. Could care less either way.

[Ilindith]

Whatever guys, neg rep me all you want. I said my personal preference, not yours. Could care less either way.

You got negative reputation for something in this thread? That's just silly. I don't see anything wrong with what you said.

[Kages]

You got negative reputation for something in this thread? That's just silly. I don't see anything wrong with what you said.

I really didn't either, but got hit like 30 clicks of it. Fine by me though. If I really cared what people thought about me I'd lock myself in a closet or something.

Back to topic though, I hope you luck on your fvs bro.

[Cardtrick]

You got negative reputation for something in this thread? That's just silly. I don't see anything wrong with what you said.

I wasn't the one who neg-repped Kages, but I can certainly understand why someone did. There are whole subforums devoted to character builds, and some of them are commonly known by name: Tukaw build, exploiter build, axesinger, etc. It is perfectly normal and acceptable for players to create characters that use builds posted in the forums. That's why the builds are there!

The reason people neg-repped Kages was that KalTheo posted a completely innocent, and in fact helpful, suggestion:

I recommend Impaqt's "Superior Soul". Mine's currently lvl 16 and I love it.

And Kages responded by calling that "copying" and "just lazy". (And yeah, he followed that by saying it was a "personal preference", but that's like saying "You stink. . . no offense.")

He would have gotten his point across without getting any negative rep if he had avoided the inflammatory wording and instead written something like "Looking at character builds can be really helpful when learning, but I think you'll be happier with your character if you build it yourself. But, sure, the Superior Soul build is a great one to look at for suggestions."