Selling an Eardweller..?

[gogetta101]

How much would u pay..?

Whats Too much and Whats not..?

[Kadriel]

wasn't it bound?

[madmaxhunter]

0, btc

[elraido]

How much would u pay..?

Whats Too much and Whats not..?

The are bound to character. Only way to "sell" one is to run the quest and then when it drops, invite people into group. You do have a time limit as well....5-10 min after it appears.

[gogetta101]

Yea thats how it's done... I personally like to find a buyer then i run it and Let them know when i have it and they come get it and trade what they said they would trade for it prior to me getting it....

Which brings me back to me original question...
What would u pay for 1..?

[mudfud]

A caster doesn't deserve an eardweller if they don't get it for themself.

[rest]

A while back someone on Sarlona was doing it for 500k plat OR a large scale. I should have gone for it, but I was having video card problems at the time so I couldn't reliably be on when they were farming.

[madmaxhunter]

And you're really getting into the grey area of ToS. By the rules, you have to earn the loot. Advertising what you're doing can invite problems.

[gogetta101]

And you're really getting into the grey area of ToS. By the rules, you have to earn the loot. Advertising what you're doing can invite problems.

How..? I do the work and sell it... Supply and demand how can anyone even get remotely mad at that... Imo its either they are jealous or immature..

But yea I am a 3rd life pm noob so enlighten me pls..

[madmaxhunter]

How..? I do the work and sell it... Supply and demand how can anyone even get remotely mad at that... Imo its either they are jealous or immature..

But yea I am a 3rd life pm noob so enlighten me pls..

Simple, the player you would sell to did not run the quest to earn the eardweller. And by facilitating that, you also would be guilty of infraction.

[gogetta101]

Simple, the player you would sell to did not run the quest to earn the eardweller. And by facilitating that, you also would be guilty of infraction.

They paid for it so........ I really dont see any problem..

If I'm understanding u correctly, They need to run the quest in order for them to have 1, When instead they could just pay someone to run it for them..? Besides There is no Official rule stating u cant do that.... Is there..?

[madmaxhunter]

They paid for it so........ I really dont see any problem..

If I'm understanding u correctly, They need to run the quest in order for them to have 1, When instead they could just pay someone to run it for them..?

Only because it's bound to character. Sure, a regular item can be bought and sold without restriction, but when it's bound, the intent is that it's earned within the quest, or in this case a bonus rare item only found within a quest. I'm not saying that there aren't people doing what you propose, I'm only saying that it MAY be looked on as a ToS or CoC issue.

[Truga]

They paid for it so........ I really dont see any problem..

This. All bound gear does is screw with economy. I can understand why final crafted items get bound, but drops that drop from chest/to ground? Uhhhhh...

Also, in a supply/demand market, the effort someone went through to buy something is larger than if they tried to get them themselves, so "not earned" point is moot. It takes a lot more grinding to get enough plat from lower level quests than it does getting the eardweller. And grinding is :effort:

Edit: Also, what about pikers? Should they also get banned because they pike through quests and then loot bound gear at no effort? Yeah, I thought so.

[fluffybunnywilson]

They paid for it so........ I really dont see any problem..

If I'm understanding u correctly, They need to run the quest in order for them to have 1, When instead they could just pay someone to run it for them..? Besides There is no Official rule stating u cant do that.... Is there..?

I don't have a problem with this either, but it is a violation of Turbine's ToS.

It is explicitly against the ToS to get rewards in quests without overcoming the challenges that are required to achieve that reward.

One example of this is Sins of Attrition - if I solo Sins and kill every single enemy in the entire quest and then invite 5 other people in to open the chests, then all 6 of us are in violation of the ToS because those chests were locked until I killed the critters that were guarding the chests and the other players were not in the quest at the time when those critters were killed.

I don't know of anyone who has gotten a DDO vacation for doing that, but it is still a violation of the ToS.

[Asketes]

And you're really getting into the grey area of ToS. By the rules, you have to earn the loot. Advertising what you're doing can invite problems.

it's not quite as morally bad as selling raid loot in a chest, which isn't against TOC

i mean, if it drops and he can't use it AND he's only getting stuff in game for it, it's just like advertising for another item..


I don't see the problem here...

*For the record* I do see a problem with selling raid loot, but we're talking about TOC, not morals

[ORIGINALBAG0]

IIRC, they also shortened the timer on how long the Eardweller lasts after dropping to curb this behavior. I have seen one disappear in the amount of time it took the Paladin to toon over to his caster. He logged out as soon as he won the roll, and it was gone by the time he logged in on his wizzy. So, try to at least be in the party with each other on the toons that matter if you're gonna help someone farm it out.

[NUDS]

Technically, in your defence you can say you "accidentally" accepted a blind invite, then "accidentally" clicked on the instance entrance, and while you were trying to find the way out, you "accidentally" click on the Eardweller.

[Nephilia]

I would give u even a red!

[Bladedge]

Using any method to loot a chest or accept quest reward with any character who did not complete the related quest objective from start to finish.

This is a generalize rule written so they can cover every aspect without having to write a rule for every single unique circumstance in the game. Only time it would really be enforce if it was a raid or a some type of quest mechanic like a barrier didn't work properly. If they did enforce it like its written which they are not one would be playing ddo.

[Shyver]

This is a generalize rule written so they can cover every aspect without having to write a rule for every single unique circumstance in the game. Only time it would really be enforce if it was a raid or a some type of quest mechanic like a barrier didn't work properly. If they did enforce it like its written which they are not one would be playing ddo.

While I agree with you, unless you're a dev/GM, you can't speak to when it would/wouldn't be enforced. As a player, we have to abide by the rule "as written", it's not within our rights to interpret the intention of the rule.

And as written, selling/buying/gifting/recieving the eardweller to someone who wasn't in the quest for the whole thing is in violation of the ToS. As is putting up for an epic end chest, a muckbane/doom chest, an SoS flagging stone, ect, ect, ect.