Yet another myddo rant

[qwert_yuiop]

Dear Raid leader!
When looking for a DPS please do not turn down the fighter with mid 500s hp, dr breaker, curse pots, heavy fort, full set of ship buffs because you do not allow members of a particular guild into your group on principle because "we all know ppl in that guild never carry dr breakers, lack heavy fort, and dumped con". If you took the effort to my ddo the guild please look at the fortification, hp and weapon equipped. Or i will be forced to impose my awesome gimped down little rogue on you

As part of the experiment i unequipped all the hp items, dr breakers, fortification item, etc etc on my rogue and still managed to get into groups that turned down the other toon

[AMDarkwolf]

just as devils advocate here, if nobody screened for guilds, then guilds full of jerks and wads, would continue to grow in strength.

[Thaxlsillyia]

just as devils advocate here, if nobody screened for guilds, then guilds full of jerks and wads, would continue to grow in strength.

they don't grow now? the point is if you are going to screen do not do a half assed job.

[Truga]

just as devils advocate here, if nobody screened for guilds, then guilds full of jerks and wads, would continue to grow in strength.

And this is a bad thing because? At least then you have them nicely tagged.

[Sarisa]

They're probably not MyDDO'ing the char, just doing a quick /who to see the guild name. Proper screening is an "interview" anyway.

[elraido]

Just hit accept when you put up a lfm. I mean really.....unless we are talking about an elite ToD or something. If we can't do raids with a gimp toon here or there, then you aren't as uber as you thought you were. I mean my guild has to carry my butt all the time....they complete things just fine!

[Quikster]

I have been very vocal about people that use myddo to screen for groups here on the forums. That said, if your guilds behavior is keeping you from getting into groups, maybe its time to find another guild.

[wax_on_wax_off]

I love myDDO. However, about 90% of the time that I choose to myDDO someone I'll be confirm the suspicions that I have about them regarding HP (<300 hp at level 20 is not acceptable), fortification (<100% fort at level 20 is unacceptable) or some other attribute.

I've got a pretty good sense about who needs a second look and who doesn't ...

I don't screen by guild, I don't know or care enough about other guilds to.

Sorcerer joined for Enter the Kobold ... died on trip up Mount Reysalon. myDDO revealed 97 HP. 97! I lead them to some more mobs (after I raised and invis'd before myDDO'ing) and like clockwork they aggroed the mobs (not having healed at all) and promptly died. I left them there and continued on invis'd ...

[qwert_yuiop]

hmm... lets see who the wad is...

lfm starts for normal vod looking for muscle but not advertised for tank. something to the extend of 'know your stuff' (6-7 spots left)
I have joined raids run by that person on my alts before and decide to join it. I wanted to let him/her know that i was not a 'tank type' and sent a pm saying '20fighter. would like to join, not tank' and hit lfm.

No reply for 30 sec. then declined and told "i do not allow member from your guild in my group"

Me - any particular reason?
RL- coz nobody in your guild carries fort, hp, dr breaker
Me- what if i had them?
RL- link and hit lfm
I linked the min2s, minos, con6, GFL item and curse pots and hit the lfm again
Declined
Me - now what?
RL - you need guild curse pots
Me - only if you have madstone boots and i have not been lucky yet

And finally was sent an invite to join but leaves me wondering why ppl have to be such pricks

/rant off

[elraido]

hmm... lets see who the wad is...

lfm starts for normal vod looking for muscle but not advertised for tank. something to the extend of 'know your stuff' (6-7 spots left)
I have joined raids run by that person on my alts before and decide to join it. I wanted to let him/her know that i was not a 'tank type' and sent a pm saying '20fighter. would like to join, not tank' and hit lfm.

No reply for 30 sec. then declined and told "i do not allow member from your guild in my group"

Me - any particular reason?
RL- coz nobody in your guild carries fort, hp, dr breaker
Me- what if i had them?
RL- link and hit lfm
I linked the min2s, minos, con6, GFL item and curse pots and hit the lfm again
Declined
Me - now what?
RL - you need guild curse pots
Me - only if you have madstone boots and i have not been lucky yet

And finally was sent an invite to join but leaves me wondering why ppl have to be such pricks

/rant off

Because you can't fix stupid. For someone to be that large of an idiot is beyond me. A WHOLE guild can't have fort, hp or dr breakers? Really? The WHOLE FREAKIN' guild? This is why I don't pug. This is why I love my guild. They know I am going to go all Leroy Jenkins on it, they just sigh and pick up my soul stone along the way....that way I can go make me a sammich.

[Gleep_Wurp]

I love myDDO. However, about 90% of the time that I choose to myDDO someone I'll be confirm the suspicions that I have about them regarding HP (<300 hp at level 20 is not acceptable), fortification (<100% fort at level 20 is unacceptable) or some other attribute.

I've got a pretty good sense about who needs a second look and who doesn't ...

I don't screen by guild, I don't know or care enough about other guilds to.

Sorcerer joined for Enter the Kobold ... died on trip up Mount Reysalon. myDDO revealed 97 HP. 97! I lead them to some more mobs (after I raised and invis'd before myDDO'ing) and like clockwork they aggroed the mobs (not having healed at all) and promptly died. I left them there and continued on invis'd ...

awesome.love it. i once lead a mission in burning city.i hate to lead and i hate burning city.so i have this moron in group who wants to zerg and wont listen to me the party leader.after a few warnings i picked up his stone and tossed it into the lava back when there was no way out.it was a good laugh when he constantly asked where he was and how to get out. when he released and got the boot more laughter ensued.i didnt want to do that quest and he made it suck even worse but he was at least good for a laugh.

[Chai]

MyDDO and blacklisgted guild are two completely different things. While your thread title speaks of the former, your actual rant speaks of the latter.

I am thinking that maybe they did NOT MyDDO you before declining, which is why they did NOT see the boss beaters, 500+ HP and heavy fort, and just assumed you were gimped due to some bias they have toward your guild.

You probably didnt want to be on that run anyhow if this is how people are screening to get into their group.

[mws2970]

hmm... lets see who the wad is...

lfm starts for normal vod looking for muscle but not advertised for tank. something to the extend of 'know your stuff' (6-7 spots left)
I have joined raids run by that person on my alts before and decide to join it. I wanted to let him/her know that i was not a 'tank type' and sent a pm saying '20fighter. would like to join, not tank' and hit lfm.

No reply for 30 sec. then declined and told "i do not allow member from your guild in my group"

Me - any particular reason?
RL- coz nobody in your guild carries fort, hp, dr breaker
Me- what if i had them?
RL- link and hit lfm
I linked the min2s, minos, con6, GFL item and curse pots and hit the lfm again
Declined
Me - now what?
RL - you need guild curse pots
Me - only if you have madstone boots and i have not been lucky yet

And finally was sent an invite to join but leaves me wondering why ppl have to be such pricks

/rant off

Sounds like you were better off not joining this raid leader. /squelch add ______ , add them to your "friends" list and move on. Don't let someone ruin your fun!

You probably didnt want to be on that run anyhow if this is how people are screening to get into their group.

edited to add this quote and say I am in 100% agreement with this.

[Thaxlsillyia]

reminds me of the vod i did yesterday actually. 3/4 ppl in team. no caster yet. so hit it with my caster who is parked in "noobsauce alert" guild and was declined. she is not awesome but getting close to decent with dcs at 38-40 which has been sufficient on normal vods for me esp with the new debuff spells. but 'your group your call' i guess. promptly switched to rogue and was accepted immediately

lesson for the day - take your rogue to vod and score some tharnes

[Raolin_Darksbane]

I have been very vocal about people that use myddo to screen for groups here on the forums. That said, if your guilds behavior is keeping you from getting into groups, maybe its time to find another guild.

I don't know who this quick guy is but I find myself agreeing with him quite often. I rarely personally screen anyone and by rarely I mean never. Hell, I even let Hex in an abbot run the other night on Omber's suggestion so obviously I don't care

Having said that, there's a saying to the effect of 'Your friends speak volumes about you'. If your guild is quite strong in the moron dept. then don't be surprised when those that DO screen via guild, auto-assume you're a moron as well. If this is the case then maybe it really is time to find another guild.

[jwdaniels]

As soon as a leader for an lfm starts asking you to link stuff, that should be your cue to find another lfm immediately. Anyone who thinks it's only possible to complete a quest with the right combination of builds and stuff is, in my opinion, not someone who should be running a group.

[stoopid_cowboy]

As soon as a leader for an lfm starts asking you to link stuff, that should be your cue to find another lfm immediately.

That is exactly why my Barbarian packs a Masterwork Greataxe with force critical ritual on it.
"Here's my boss beater!"

yuda

[Dozen_Black_Roses]

I have been very vocal about people that use myddo to screen for groups here on the forums. That said, if your guilds behavior is keeping you from getting into groups, maybe its time to find another guild.

It doesnt sound like they used myddo, rather they saw your guild tag and auto declined based on past experiences, as if they had my ddo'd your toon they would have seen the gear you stated you had on (give or take a hotswap item or so).

There is a saying If you play around with pigs, sooner or later you are going to wind up covered in mud, and similarly If you lay down with dogs, you will get up covered in fleas.

If you are having these problems based on your guild, then I would take a hard look in this area, and strongly consider finding another guild. Unfortunately there are several high ranking guilds who mass recruit and do not help/teach their guild members and are full of people who are going to be resource drains in quests/raids. When you are the raid leader and 5 unknown people hit your lfm...who are you going to choose? One from the guild you've had alot of problems with or the ones from guilds you usually have smooth runs with?

[karl_k0ch]

As soon as a leader for an lfm starts asking you to link stuff, that should be your cue to find another lfm immediately. Anyone who thinks it's only possible to complete a quest with the right combination of builds and stuff is, in my opinion, not someone who should be running a group.

Not necessarily.

As a shroud leader I am actually interested in the weaponry used by the players, because it gives me an idea what to expect on part2 and 4/5. Also, it helps me to see if I have ranged characters in the group.
I'm not screening; I'm taking basically everyone. With any weapon. Sometimes I convince Paladins to use a Holy Sword instead of unfinished Tier2 Min1 items.

But I'd like to know the general level of items used in my group. And if I have to be picky, because there is only one spot for two people applying, I'd rather take the one with the better weaponry.

(And another anecdote: I saw an lfm, level 10ish, VoN3, "Link Deathblock item". No reason not to join that group; to the contrary.)

[Der_Incubo]

As soon as a leader for an lfm starts asking you to link stuff, that should be your cue to find another lfm immediately. Anyone who thinks it's only possible to complete a quest with the right combination of builds and stuff is, in my opinion, not someone who should be running a group.

Have to agree there. I usually link several epic weapons then decline when they reinvite me. If i wasnt good enough when you didnt know what i was packin, your probably not good enough.