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    you might want to check whirling steel feat also as it has similar issues concerning to hit and knocks the monk from being centered during instance change

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    I believe handwraps are still in beta, as are monks.

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    Non-crafted handwraps are not properly applying their enhancement bonuses to-hit and damage. To temporarily correct this issue, players can activate an ability, equip an item, or cast a spell/spell-like ability that adjusts their attack bonus.

    While not a comprehensive list, here are some things that can adjust attack bonus:

    Greater Heroism
    Monk Fire-Light-Fire Finisher
    Greater Nimble Trinket
    Goggles of Insight
    Spectral Gloves

    Please note that set bonuses which grant an attack bonus are not resolving this problem. Additionally, if a monk equips another set of handwraps, the attack bonus adjustment item/ability/spell/spell-like ability will need to be reapplied.

    Equipping a set of handwraps, logging out, then logging back in will also resolve this issue.

    These work-arounds can help your to-hit and damage bonuses with non-crafted handwraps until we’re able to correct the issue. We apologize for the inconvenience.
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    Looks like a stack of heroism potions will be a decent workaround then.

    Or craft a nice set of wraps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Non-crafted handwraps are not properly applying their enhancement bonuses to-hit and damage. To temporarily correct this issue, players can activate an ability, equip an item, or cast a spell/spell-like ability that adjusts their attack bonus.

    While not a comprehensive list, here are some things that can adjust attack bonus:

    Greater Heroism
    Monk Fire-Light-Fire Finisher
    Greater Nimble Trinket
    Goggles of Insight
    Spectral Gloves

    Please note that set bonuses which grant an attack bonus are not resolving this problem. Additionally, if a monk equips another set of handwraps, the attack bonus adjustment item/ability/spell/spell-like ability will need to be reapplied.

    Equipping a set of handwraps, logging out, then logging back in will also resolve this issue.

    These work-arounds can help your to-hit and damage bonuses with non-crafted handwraps until we’re able to correct the issue. We apologize for the inconvenience.
    Awesome! So you handing out spectral gloves to fix this? Or Greater nimble trinkets? Or do I just have to equip, logout, login -- EVERY BLASTED TIME I NEED TO CHANGE WRAPS? How the heck do you miss an issue like this? It isn't like it was buried three layers deep in a corner case. Oh wait -- you didn't miss it, you've known about it for at least 4 days if not more and you still went ahead and pushed this live.

    Who is it in the turbine hierarchy that makes the "go, no-go" decision on bugs like this? Did they really say, "Well, ok, this bug basically makes it impossible for an entire class to function beyond the middle level of the game. We can live with that. We'll fix it in the next update a month from now."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siftrant View Post
    Awesome! So you handing out spectral gloves to fix this? Or Greater nimble trinkets? Or do I just have to equip, logout, login -- EVERY BLASTED TIME I NEED TO CHANGE WRAPS? How the heck do you miss an issue like this? It isn't like it was buried three layers deep in a corner case. Oh wait -- you didn't miss it, you've known about it for at least 4 days if not more and you still went ahead and pushed this live.

    Who is it in the turbine hierarchy that makes the "go, no-go" decision on bugs like this? Did they really say, "Well, ok, this bug basically makes it impossible for an entire class to function beyond the middle level of the game. We can live with that. We'll fix it in the next update a month from now."
    For what it's worth, atleast "googles of insight" are a 100% end reward from korthos and can easily be swapped in/out at your need. That'd likely be the best solution.

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    This is just one of many reasons why i ended up dropping my VIP status. Very shoddy testing & quality control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siftrant View Post
    Who is it in the turbine hierarchy that makes the "go, no-go" decision on bugs like this? Did they really say, "Well, ok, this bug basically makes it impossible for an entire class to function beyond the middle level of the game. We can live with that. We'll fix it in the next update a month from now."
    Let's be honest here. If your monk owned when you had the enhancement bonus to your handwraps, then it's still owning without the ehnancement bonus. I can understand needing to vent a valid frustration, but you appear to be going quite overboard, which could have the effect of minimizing more realistic assessments of the situation. It may be better to save dire predictions such as yours for when something class-breaking actually happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cave_diver View Post
    This is just one of many reasons why i ended up dropping my VIP status. Very shoddy testing & quality control.
    ROFLMAO!!

    You have no CLUE.

    This is actually a very prompt and informative response. SO much better than yesteryear.

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    equip and unequip your tod rings. helped me, hope it works for you guys
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    Does this mean the Grizz got nerfed yet again?
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    LOl neg repped? For what saying I am dissatisfied? get a life.

    Quote Originally Posted by BattleCircle View Post
    ROFLMAO!!

    You have no CLUE.

    This is actually a very prompt and informative response. SO much better than yesteryear.


    It wasn't this one that made me stop my VIP status......just a lot of little things that added up that made me feel that what I got out of VIP was just not worth the monthly cost.

    I appreciate the quick responses from the the devs....but lets be honest here. They knew it was broke before the patch...yet they still decided to release it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BattleCircle View Post
    ROFLMAO!!

    You have no CLUE.

    This is actually a very prompt and informative response. SO much better than yesteryear.
    That really says more about yesteryear than it does about today, though...


    This bug was reported on Lamania both in the Lamania forums AND in bug reports. It should have at least been in the known issues list before 9.1 was released to live servers even if they weren't going to fix it before releasing 9.1.

    I will say that I am VERY happy that Turbine managed to kill the vanishing Tiny Ingredients Bag problem before releasing 9.1. They are getting better with many of these issues. They still have a fair way to go before they actually hit "good", though.

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    Does toggling power attack do the trick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasthug View Post
    Does toggling power attack do the trick?
    though i was not on a monk to test it, my guildies reported that it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Non-crafted handwraps are not properly applying their enhancement bonuses to-hit and damage. To temporarily correct this issue, players can activate an ability, equip an item, or cast a spell/spell-like ability that adjusts their attack bonus.

    While not a comprehensive list, here are some things that can adjust attack bonus:

    Greater Heroism
    Monk Fire-Light-Fire Finisher
    Greater Nimble Trinket
    Goggles of Insight
    Spectral Gloves

    Please note that set bonuses which grant an attack bonus are not resolving this problem. Additionally, if a monk equips another set of handwraps, the attack bonus adjustment item/ability/spell/spell-like ability will need to be reapplied.

    Equipping a set of handwraps, logging out, then logging back in will also resolve this issue.

    These work-arounds can help your to-hit and damage bonuses with non-crafted handwraps until we’re able to correct the issue. We apologize for the inconvenience.
    Thank you for investigating it quickly and providing a work around. I'm still mad this didn't get any attention on Lamannia, but it's refreshing to see three responses in the same day by a Turbine employee. Communication is appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasthug View Post
    Does toggling power attack do the trick?

    Just tried this on my monk.....and it seems to work. When toggling PA off/on after switching wraps bonus's "seemed" to correct the error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BattleCircle View Post
    ROFLMAO!!

    You have no CLUE.

    This is actually a very prompt and informative response. SO much better than yesteryear.
    That's the problem. The only way to get a prompt and informative response to a problem is to get enough people to post about it on the forums. If they were more proactive about actually dealing with the bug reports they received, it would go a long way towards relieving the frustrations of the players. If this had been listed in the known issues when the update went live, the response would have been very different. As it stands, what was accomplished by filing the bug reports on Lammania? As far as the players can tell, the issue wasn't investigated until this thread got their attention. The bug reports that were filed may be sitting in a database somewhere, they may have been closed, or they may be being investigated. It really doesn't matter, because from the player's perspective, all they can see is that bug reports were sent in and never acted upon until a thread about the problem got their attention.

    That's why I don't bother with bug reports anymore. Until there's some kind of feedback system to at least let the players know the status of known bugs(And I don't count the so-called "Known Issues" that aren't actually known issues), there's really no point to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian99 View Post
    Let's be honest here. If your monk owned when you had the enhancement bonus to your handwraps, then it's still owning without the ehnancement bonus. I can understand needing to vent a valid frustration, but you appear to be going quite overboard, which could have the effect of minimizing more realistic assessments of the situation. It may be better to save dire predictions such as yours for when something class-breaking actually happens.
    My monk kicks a** but if I change wraps I go from +39 Bonus to hit to +28. Reequiping my epic spectral gloves fixes it but losing +11 to hit bonus is really messed up and something my monk can't do epic content without.

    Why I'm losing +11 from my bonus I don't know because that's far more than the +4 bonus on my wraps.

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    Default Workarounds not all working

    As of 30 minutes ago, toggling PA doenst help at all, and swapping Specral gloves fixed toHit, but not damage. Logging didnt seem to help. Only thing that got my damage bonus back was wailing on my training dummy on the airship with a quarterstaff until I got the Hours of Practice buff, then swapping to wraps - and the problem came back after I left the ship 8-(

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