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    Default two RAD IIs a waste?

    Is having two RAD IIs a waste? or do people make the second kopesh as a boss beater?

    I found that I already have 2 Metalline Khopeshes of pure good already and I was thinking of just using those as boss beaters. Or should I only make one RAD II and then either a MIN II/LIT II?

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    If I could chop up my guild mate, take her arm, sew it on Star, and use a 3rd Rad2 rapier, I would. More Rad2s are never a waste.

    If you are using khopeshes for your rad2s, then you should get a second rad2 even more as your blindness rate will already be lower than normal.
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    on a twink rogue, i use 2 rad II scimis which i then switch to 2 rad II khopeshes. Even if you arent proficient with the scimis, their purpose is really just to get one crit (which often happens in one swing).

    oftentimes, mobs die too fast for that, so i use a rad II khopesh+ a lit II khopesh (which is what id recommend especially considering you already have BBs)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    If I could chop up my guild mate, take her arm, sew it on Star, and use a 3rd Rad2 rapier, I would. More Rad2s are never a waste.

    If you are using khopeshes for your rad2s, then you should get a second rad2 even more as your blindness rate will already be lower than normal.
    That is what I suspected already. Now I can start crafting two of them without worrying about wasting larges. Thanks for the fast response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    If I could chop up my guild mate, take her arm, sew it on Star, and use a 3rd Rad2 rapier, I would.
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    Also, I like dual rads.

    However, it's hard to argue with taking a Lit II, tho, for off-hand/main-hand GP use...if you solo a lot, or lead the pack often, dual rads are damage + defense, but if you generally hang back a bit, a Lit II might be better to build before your 2nd Rad II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    If I could chop up my guild mate, take her arm, sew it on Star, and use a 3rd Rad2 rapier, I would. More Rad2s are never a waste.
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    Main hand: Lit2
    Off hand: Rad2
    HP item or DT: Rad guard

    I find this to be more than sufficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calebro View Post
    Main hand: Lit2
    Off hand: Rad2
    HP item or DT: Rad guard

    I find this to be more than sufficient.
    I wish I could craft rad2 Handwraps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blank_Zero View Post
    I wish I could craft rad2 Handwraps
    On an unarmed striker-
    HP item or DT: Rad guard
    A few AP: Unbalancing Strike.

    Your DC may not be great, but it's better than nothing.

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    My rogue's AC is her dual rad rapiers. I made them one at a time as the larges became available and there was a noticeable difference after having the second one made, which was a bit surprising. She uses them for everything except boss fights, where I just swap out to my MoPG generic stuff. One day I'll probably make some real boss beaters, but for now this combo works really well and I'm glad I went that route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calebro View Post
    On an unarmed striker-
    HP item or DT: Rad guard
    A few AP: Unbalancing Strike.

    Your DC may not be great, but it's better than nothing.
    Dukkha is going to be a rogue monk soon (unarmed assassin 3).

    Could you imagine that with rad2 wraps?

    I do have an HP/rad guard gs though.
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    The first radiance II is a waste let alone the second... /sigh with the people in love with radiance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bendover View Post
    The first radiance II is a waste let alone the second... /sigh with the people in love with radiance...
    I guess you've never played a rogue...

    My rogue only has one rad II, and seems to do pretty well with only one... I haven't bothered to craft two of them yet...

    To the OP... Craft one, see how you do and then decide on the second one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bendover View Post
    The first radiance II is a waste let alone the second... /sigh with the people in love with radiance...
    Either you have no idea what you're talking about.... or you have no idea what you're talking about. I'll let you decide which.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calebro View Post
    Either you have no idea what you're talking about.... or you have no idea what you're talking about. I'll let you decide which.

    First of, I have a rogue that I just recently TR'ed. Secondly my rogue puts out more dps then 99.5% of the server because I unlike others like maximazing my dps potential and radiance II's aren't the answer...

    They are useless in epics, and stupid in raids... They are fine for a TR constantly leveling up but when you get to the big boy stuff it's time to put them away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bendover View Post
    They are useless in epics, and stupid in raids... They are fine for a TR constantly leveling up but when you get to the big boy stuff it's time to put them away.
    Yeah, you put them away for the boss fight, obviously. No one is arguing that.
    But saying that they're useless is idiotic. A Rad2 is the single most important piece of equipment that a rouge will ever own.
    A Rad2 will dramatically increase your potential DPS by offering sneak attacks in situations where it would otherwise not exist.
    If you claim to be built for DPS then you should already know this.

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    I'm happy to be corrected but my understanding is that since the change to TWF a few updates ago both hands now use the same dice roll, so if you are dual wielding rapiers, if one crits, both crit (more or less - there are a few caveats to that statement).

    If the above is true, and since the blindness effect has no saving throw, a second radiance rapier would be a waste and you would be better off crafting a different offhand weapon.

    Whatever the case, I would highly commend crafting the first rad II rapier as your first priority. It's effect on rogue dps is massive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bendover View Post
    First of, I have a rogue that I just recently TR'ed. Secondly my rogue puts out more dps then 99.5% of the server because I unlike others like maximazing my dps potential and radiance II's aren't the answer...

    They are useless in epics, and stupid in raids... They are fine for a TR constantly leveling up but when you get to the big boy stuff it's time to put them away.
    dunno about you, but autosneak, giving everyone in the raid an extra 50% miss chance....

    How is this useless in the slightest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calebro View Post
    Either you have no idea what you're talking about.... or you have no idea what you're talking about. I'll let you decide which.
    I'm going with the second option.

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