Unbuffed tank AC?

[Astraghal]

Dwarven Fighter 20 Stalwart Defender III

AC breakdown

10 base
17 armor - epic cavalry plate w/+7 slotted
09 shield - epic swashbuckler w/+7 slotted
08 dexterity
05 natural armor - pirate hat
05 deflection - minII belt
05 combat expertise
04 superior defensive stance
04 insight - epic swashbuckler/greensteel weapon
03 dodge - chattering ring
03 stalwart defender III pre
02 stalwart set bonus
02 dodge - thaarak bracelet
02 alchemical armor/shield ritual
01 dodge - cloak of night/nimble trinket
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80 unbuffed AC

01 dodge feat
01 two-weapon defense
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81 unbuffed S&B AC

71 unbuffed TWF AC

Forgot those two.

[Sirslapemsack]

I believe elite horoth requires a 90 AC to only be hit on a 20.

[MrWizard]

What is a target AC to hit to be an effective tank. I know there are tons of "buffs" or other temporary effects but what should my unbuffed ac be after equipment, feats and enhancements. Right now at level 16 Pally I have 42 with sword and board. Currently I am KotC however I have all the feats I need to go Defender once the rest of my gear will saport being the tank. How close am I?

you will get more with the gear and enhancements you will be using when you switch.

a lot of 'buff/unbuff' depends on gear. A buff could be shield of faith or barkskin...but there are items that can give you +5 shield of faith (deflection) and +3 or +5 barkskin.

a lot is gear and enhancements/prestige effects.

look at some of the lists here...google for definitive ac thread...there is so much to look at..

the list above this post (or a few up) shows some of the ways to do it.

[Astraghal]

If you want to get a really high TWF AC you are pretty much going to need buffs. UMD is pretty much a must to be able to use CL:5/10 Shield wands. Recitation scrolls will net you 2 more AC and last about 90 seconds. Haste potions/clickies will get you another 1 AC.

[LOOON375]

Nobody can put an AC on this forum without including buffs. The OP asks for level 16 and someone posts their LEVEL 20 build.

He obviously don't have top of the line gear, but posters continually post AC levels that can only be achieved with certain gear.

Sometimes it's threads like this that end up doing more harm than good.

And I will thank whoever ahead of time for the negative rep Im about to receive.

[SEMPER]

What is a target AC to hit to be an effective tank. I know there are tons of "buffs" or other temporary effects but what should my unbuffed ac be after equipment, feats and enhancements. Right now at level 16 Pally I have 42 with sword and board. Currently I am KotC however I have all the feats I need to go Defender once the rest of my gear will saport being the tank. How close am I?

Nobody can put an AC on this forum without including buffs. The OP asks for level 16 and someone posts their LEVEL 20 build.

He obviously don't have top of the line gear, but posters continually post AC levels that can only be achieved with certain gear.

Sometimes it's threads like this that end up doing more harm than good.

And I will thank whoever ahead of time for the negative rep Im about to receive.

looks to me he's asking ( how close is he atm at 16 for end game ??? ) maybe I'm reading to much into his OP or maybe you didn't read it good enough either way nice bump