Guild Leader Should be able to check Members' renown contro

[BOgre]

Was thinking of starting a little mini-contest based on renown contribution. We'll have to use the screenie/honor system, since there doesn't seem to be a way to check members' contro, only your own.

would be a nice feature i think.

[TheDearLeader]

This topic has been brought up multiple times. I think at this time, it does not particularly need revisiting.

Dead horse, beaten.

[cdemeritt]

/not signed...

While your intentions may be good, this would be abused...

As stated, has been discussed at length, no need to rehash.

[BOgre]

not sure how to search for it. searches with the terms 'guild' and 'renown' in them turn up hundreds of results, none relating to this. Oh, well. Thanks for the replys.

[MsEricka]

Not a chance. While I like my guild and most of them like me and I get renown at every opportunity, it's no one's business how much renown I get.

[Jiirix]

not sure how to search for it. searches with the terms 'guild' and 'renown' in them turn up hundreds of results, none relating to this. Oh, well. Thanks for the replys.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...t=renown+guild
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...t=renown+guild

for example.. and I am sure there were some more...

And I dont think that it is an good idea too.

[BOgre]

Read those and found some others. Eh, I see the arguments against. Crummy people/leaders/guilds will always find some way to be unfair and abuse whatever system they have access to... I just wanted to do a little fun contest, but there's other ways. We're new and small still, so abusing the system is a non-issue. Noone's getting punted any time soon, or any time far for that matter, at least not for renown/activity issues.

[mleger]

I think you could have a neat ranking system using this, and would make guilds a more tighter unit.

[Vyrn]

Read those and found some others. Eh, I see the arguments against. Crummy people/leaders/guilds will always find some way to be unfair and abuse whatever system they have access to... I just wanted to do a little fun contest, but there's other ways. We're new and small still, so abusing the system is a non-issue. Noone's getting punted any time soon, or any time far for that matter, at least not for renown/activity issues.

Get em to mouse over and make screenys?

[Doomcrew]

I think you could have a neat ranking system using this, and would make guilds a more tighter unit.

Or you could create dissention and animousity because some one isn't pulling their weight.

/No

[AtomicMew]

Or you could create dissention and animousity because some one isn't pulling their weight.

/No

As a guild leader, it should be your right to set certain requirements for joining your guild. If you wanted to set certain renown requirements, you should be able to do that - after all, it is your guild. Players, of course, would be free to either accept those requirements or not accept them and not join your guild. That is their free choice.

[fuzzy1guy]

nm

[shores11]

/not signed

There are way to many ways to abuse this should it be an option.

[muffinlad]

I see both sides of this pretty clearly.

A) It would be nice for guild leaders to see who is chipping in.
B) Some leaders would kick, or treat people poorly based on renown earning.

I don't think there is a good answer to which way this should go, but I do think they have come up with the best answer possible with the system as it is.

You have to trust your guildies, and base your treatment of them on teaming with them, and not based on what kind of treasure they take.

One statement "It is no one's business what my renown is"....seems rather odd considering what renown means- But understand, your renown is not personal. You earn it for a guild. So in the odd world of DDO, this statement is entirely correct.

Naturally, in the "real world" I would never accept that kind of tool over my sales team...but as this is a game, I think the Dev's have got it just right.

Regs,

muffin-renown.

[Calebro]

If we had the ability to view each character's renown, it still wouldn't tell you anything.
The only time that it would tell you how much was being contributed was if that player had ONLY that toon in the guild.
Players with multiple toons within a guild would not be accurately represented.
If you had 8 toons in the guild, but only regularly played 3 of them, then the other 5 would look like you weren't contributing. Even between those three, none of them would show an accurate representation of your contribution.
If you had those same 8 toons, and played all of them fairly regularly, none of them would even be CLOSE to an accurate representation.

There's no good way to do it, so it would only be abused.

/not signed

[somenewnoob]

Nothing good would come from it.

/not signed

[mleger]

Why not make it guild optional. The guild can turn it on or off.

Build it into the system, so you have rankings where if you contribute more, ship buffs last longer.

/signed

[eris2323]

As a guild leader, it should be your right to set certain requirements for joining your guild. If you wanted to set certain renown requirements, you should be able to do that - after all, it is your guild. Players, of course, would be free to either accept those requirements or not accept them and not join your guild. That is their free choice.

Totally agree. People who whine that it will be abused are probably worried that the 17 alts they have playing in 14 guilds for 10 minutes per week each will be removed cause they don't contribute.

Guilds provide benefits, and cost us time and effort to build. Why is it so unreasonable to expect people to contribute to that?

[Gleep_Wurp]

/signed

[jwdaniels]

If you don't want to be judged based on how much renown you contribute, don't join a guild that will judge you based on how much renown you contribute.

/signed