Warforged Ranger

**Mankghoul** · 05-09-2011, 12:10 PM

Hello, I'm just about to start my 4th life as a ranger and wanted to get a few opinions about my build( since I'm not that familiar with the class), such as what stats need some bumping or lowering, what feats are required or not needed....and the like.
Thank you for your help !

Here's what I've worked out my self:

Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(1 Fighter \ 1 Rogue \ 18 Ranger)
Hit Points: 352
Spell Points: 205
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 16
Will: 6

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 18 23
Dexterity 14 16
Constitution 18 20
Intelligence 10 12
Wisdom 8 10
Charisma 6 6

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 6 24
Disable Device 4 25
Jump 8 13
Open Lock 6 7
Search 4 28
Use Magic Device 2 21

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead

Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge

Level 4 (Ranger)

Level 5 (Ranger)

Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental
Feat: (Selected) Mobility

Level 7 (Ranger)

Level 8 (Ranger)

Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack

Level 10 (Ranger)

Level 11 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack

Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Monstrous Humanoid
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 13 (Ranger)

Level 14 (Ranger)

Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh

Level 16 (Ranger)

Level 17 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider

Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting

Level 19 (Ranger)

Level 20 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Improved Search II
Enhancement: Improved Search III
Enhancement: Improved Search IV
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend III
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III
Enhancement: Warforged Combat Training I
Enhancement: Warforged Combat Training II
Enhancement: Warforged Combat Training III
Enhancement: Warforged Combat Training IV

I have the fighter, monk and palading past lives.

Here's some of the loot i plan on wearing.

Head: GS HP, Conc opp. / Skullfetish :P
Goggle:GS SP,Cha+6, Lightning Storm Guard
Neck: GS HP, Earthgrab/ Torc
Trinket: Head of Good Fortune/Greater Stalwart Trinket
Cloak: lvl 16 Mabar Cloak/Epic Envenomed Cloak
Belt: Knost's Belt
Bracers: Levik's Bracers/ Epic Scorched Bracers
Gloves:Gloves of the Titan's Grip
Docent: Docent of Defiance
Boots: Madstone boots/ Surefooted boots
Ring1: Tumbleweed
Ring2: Not sure yet. Hoping for a Tod ring/
Weapon1: LitII Kopesh
Weapon2: LitII Kopesh

**78mackson** · 05-09-2011, 12:20 PM

Since your going WF why not skip rogue and pick up 1 lvl of barbarian? Unless your dying for the "fun/joy" of disabling traps and opening doors n chests...

You won't be annoyed by rage exhaustion as the main selling point. But also:
Full bab (slightly increased attack speed),
+1dmg in PA,
a somewhat rage (one extra if you got encrusted),
+10% movement speed is also nice.

**Mankghoul** · 05-09-2011, 12:33 PM

Thanks for the quick reply !

Yes, the 1 lvl of barbarian would be sweet but Im going to be grouping with a couple of friends and the ability to disable the traps would go a long way to give us more exp and smooter runs. Also being able to safely secure the passage for the party makes me feel less useless hehe :P

**grodon9999** · 05-09-2011, 02:15 PM

How in love are you with WF? Any of the fleshy races can better take advantage of the potential for excellent self-healing. Dorf can have the same HP, human more healing amp, Horc more damage output.

**Mankghoul** · 05-09-2011, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by grodon9999

How in love are you with WF? Any of the fleshy races can better take advantage of the potential for excellent self-healing. Dorf can have the same HP, human more healing amp, Horc more damage output.

I dont really like the other races that much actually- Really would prefer a Warforged.

**Faent** · 05-09-2011, 11:12 PM

The 18 levels of RNG is pretty pointless on this build. Go 15 RNG, 1 ROG, 4 FTR. This nets you two extra bonus feats, you still get FoM and CSW, and you still get your 4th Favored Enemy. You are gimping yourself by taking RNG to 18. =)

**Mankghoul** · 05-10-2011, 12:11 AM

hm..15 ranger... I was thinking 15ranger/3 rogue/2 paladin, or 15 ranger/3 paladin/2fighter (wont be able to have as high UMD or do traps though :/ ) .

The paladin lvls are for charisma mod to saves, i love high saves almost as much as I love WF.

I could start with 16 STR, 14 DEX, 18 CON, 10 INT, 8 WIS, 12 CHA.

How does that seem?

**Mankghoul** · 05-10-2011, 12:41 AM

I ran the 15rgr/3rg/2pal through the char generator...here it is:

Code:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.8.2
DDO Character Planner Home Page

Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(2 Paladin \ 3 Rogue \ 15 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 350
Spell Points: 160 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 17
Will: 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    21
Dexterity            14                    16
Constitution         18                    20
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             12                    12

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    19
Bluff                 1                     1
Concentration         4                     5
Diplomacy             1                     1
Disable Device        4                    25
Haggle                1                     1
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  2                     3
Intimidate            1                     1
Jump                  7                    17
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             6                     7
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                4                    24
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  7                     9
Tumble                6                    13
Use Magic Device      5                    24

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 4 (Ranger)


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 10 (Rogue)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 13 (Ranger)


Level 14 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Monstrous Humanoid


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 16 (Ranger)


Level 17 (Ranger)


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Swamp Lore I
Enhancement: Ranger Swamp Lore II
Enhancement: Ranger Tundra Lore I
Enhancement: Ranger Tundra Lore II
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore I
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore II
Enhancement: Ranger Item Defense I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance III
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Wrack Construct I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III

**karl_k0ch** · 05-10-2011, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by Faent

The 18 levels of RNG is pretty pointless on this build. Go 15 RNG, 1 ROG, 4 FTR. This nets you two extra bonus feats, you still get FoM and CSW, and you still get your 4th Favored Enemy. You are gimping yourself by taking RNG to 18. =)

Tempest 3 is still a viable PrE, imho. Or are there things which make the Double Strike bonus essentially irrelevant?

Exploiters and Prodigy-like builds (12 Ran, 7 Rog, 1 Monk) have one essential advantage: The option to use Handwraps against mobs which are crit-immune. The Handwrap's higher speed synergize with the Rogue haste boost nicely.

**grodon9999** · 05-10-2011, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by karl_k0ch

Exploiters and Prodigy-like builds (12 Ran, 7 Rog, 1 Monk) have one essential advantage: The option to use Handwraps against mobs which are crit-immune. The Handwrap's higher speed synergize with the Rogue haste boost nicely.

The ability to use handwraps is as useful as the AC buff from the monk splash.

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