That's the last piece I need to craft...

[Erekose]

I actually don't mind the phrase. It doesn't make it any more likely that I'll give it to you if I need it, but it doesn't hurt to speak up either. I've left an awful lot of seals and shards in the chest because no one spoke up/rolled on the thing til after I'd left the dungeon.

Well you should offer your loot up for roll rather than wait for the greedy "Its my last piece" to speak up.

I consider it rude if people ask for my loot before i have decided what I want to do with it.

[Erekose]

Let's flesh the argument out a bit further:

Player 2: The XXX of YYY appears in the chest
Player 1: "I need the XXX of YYY, it's the last piece I need to craft."
Player 2: "I need that item too."
Player 1: "Yeah but I can craft now."

Now let's assume you are player 1. whether or not you can craft now is irrelevant. If it was relevant then how did you get your loot? Because there was someone who likely had that same dilemma (was closer to crafting) previously and should have received the required ingreds. Furthermore, let's assume that Player 1 is the only person in that group to be 1 item away from completing crafting. Player 2 still needs the item and it has elluded Player 1 to the point where Player 1 was able to acquire the rest of the loot required before said item. Why would Player 2 give up an item he needs because you can craft?

Unless you are a guildie or a friend, I don't run with you enough to care how uber your build will be etc. I care about my builds not yours, even if yours can get more mileage from the gear than I can, I am still looting. Furthermore if you make a scene, I will just leave it in the chest and dc a few times before recalling out of the dungeon and then laugh at you.

Bottom line: Unless you are my friend or guildie, you aren't getting my loot unless my friends and guildies do not need it AND you don't act like a child.

/signed

[Rameses]

I hjate chest beggers, it is disgusting

I completely agree with this statement. *And I'm not referring to Erekose when I say this* But I REALLYZ hate people that lose their temper because they believe they are "entitled" to a certain item or l00tz: Cause they've worked harder and l00ted more than everyone else.
And yes, I've resorted to begging for l00t before and will probably do it again *if I need something to finish a crafting project.* but I know where my hypocracy level is.

I am, Rameses!

[Stanley_Nicholas]

I completely agree with this statement. *And I'm not referring to Erekose when I say this* But I REALLYZ hate people that lose their temper because they believe they are "entitled" to a certain item or l00tz: Cause they've worked harder and l00ted more than everyone else.
And yes, I've resorted to begging for l00t before and will probably do it again *if I need something to finish a crafting project.* but I know where my hypocracy level is.

I am, Rameses!

/signed

[Sealsniper]

... but..but..but it's the LAST thing I need to craft (my fiftieth epic item because I have 10 alts and I HAVE to at least 10 epic items on all of them).

I would say give it to Yaga, he needs all the help he can get, otherwise, run with him for your -10% enjoyment

[Rameses]

I would say give it to Yaga, he needs all the help he can get, otherwise, run with him for your -10% enjoyment

+1 Rep for telling the truth about Yaga.

[porq]

Had that happen just last night in an epic Last Stand. The other fvs in the group mentioned he was after the seal of the souleater as it was the last piece to finish the item, which is totally fine with me. It helps avoid items just sitting in the chest or being pulled because nobody spoke up.

What does annoy me is when that sense of entitlement('I deserve preferential treatment') crops up. The above fvs kept talking about it being the last piece he needed to complete. I've been wanting to make a quickstick build for a while, so if I got the seal it would be going into my bag, not his. If it dropped to someone else and went to roll, I would have rolled on it. Unfortunately it didn't drop so that piece of pseudo-drama never came to be.

Once and done to get the word out there is cool, hammering it to the group and expecting to get it out of someone hands who may want it is not, especially if its a pug(which in this case, it was).

Tl;dr version:

Guess what? It's the first piece I need and it's mine.

[Velvet.Gloves]

Look, I believe in an unspoken rule, that if you can't use it, it goes up for roll. If you're using it for crafting, take it, or put it up for roll. No one is entitled to anything. Ever. If you're in a PUG, be a team player. If it's a +2 tome, that's one thing, though. If it's BOA(character) if you can't use it, it goes up for roll. If it's BOA(Account) then I can see you taking it. -Shrugs.- Just depends on the situation. Don't be a moron about it.

[Yaga_Nub]

+1 Rep for telling the truth about Yaga.

+1 Rep for giving +1 Rep for telling the truth about meh.

[thomprob]

I would say give it to Yaga, he needs all the help he can get, otherwise, run with him for your -10% enjoyment

^ this

[Cetus]

Well you should offer your loot up for roll rather than wait for the greedy "Its my last piece" to speak up.

I consider it rude if people ask for my loot before i have decided what I want to do with it.

Can I have your sh!t when the servers are back up?

[Vengenance]

I would say give it to Yaga, he needs all the help he can get, otherwise, run with him for your -10% enjoyment

QFT

/signed

Yaga needs to make a character named Ten Percent.

[Vengenance]

Guess what? It's the first piece I need and it's mine.

/signed

Couldn't agree more!

[leon00000]

+1 Rep for giving +1 Rep for telling the truth about meh.

get a room guys.

[leon00000]

I <3 this thread.

[Thucydides04]

/signed

Couldn't agree more!

Hi Jeryl. Come play DDO!

[Mystyque]

so its ok because u do it and its a waste for someone who might take 6 months nice sounds kinda doochey to me

OG i think I am going puke I am agreeing with Jon D. LOL!!

I am probably the one person that at the moment doesnt care too much about epic gear. I have passed to guildies, put up for roll and even sold stuff no one else wanted more times than I wish to count.

However I can't stand when someone not in my guild says I really need that finish crafting please. First off I don't know if your lying to me or not. I mean it could be your first piece yet your hollaring its your last piece. Secondly it could be your 5th set.

Like Yaga said items rot in peoples banks for 6 months because they loose the roll 100 times to people that are making their 5th or 15th item of the same thing.

Their has been one epic Item I have been trying to make dont ask why I just like them. The Kundarak Warding Bracers. I have every item but either the shard or seal cant remember off hand (dont worry I check when I am playing before I roll on the items).

I have had the scroll, item and either seal or shard since Epic Velah was released I havent been able to win a roll nor see the item I need in over 60 epic von 6's between all my lvl 20 toons. So its been rotting in my bank since Epic Von 6 came out.

I will express to my guild in guild chat or vent that its my last piece for my first ever crafted epic item (other than the epic event stuff).

But I dont whine or cry if someone beats me on the roll or even if someone won the roll and I have lost to that same person 5 times for the same item.

Now how about those greedy son of a guns that roll on each epic item thats put up for roll even if they pulled or won a roll already. I have seen 1 person pull 4 or 5 items cause they won the rolls for them. I say bull ****.

[Thucydides04]

OG i think I am going puke I am agreeing with Jon D. LOL!!

I am probably the one person that at the moment doesnt care too much about epic gear. I have passed to guildies, put up for roll and even sold stuff no one else wanted more times than I wish to count.

However I can't stand when someone not in my guild says I really need that finish crafting please. First off I don't know if your lying to me or not. I mean it could be your first piece yet your hollaring its your last piece. Secondly it could be your 5th set.

Like Yaga said items rot in peoples banks for 6 months because they loose the roll 100 times to people that are making their 5th or 15th item of the same thing.

Their has been one epic Item I have been trying to make dont ask why I just like them. The Kundarak Warding Bracers. I have every item but either the shard or seal cant remember off hand (dont worry I check when I am playing before I roll on the items).

I have had the scroll, item and either seal or shard since Epic Velah was released I havent been able to win a roll nor see the item I need in over 60 epic von 6's between all my lvl 20 toons. So its been rotting in my bank since Epic Von 6 came out.

I will express to my guild in guild chat or vent that its my last piece for my first ever crafted epic item (other than the epic event stuff).

But I dont whine or cry if someone beats me on the roll or even if someone won the roll and I have lost to that same person 5 times for the same item.

Now how about those greedy son of a guns that roll on each epic item thats put up for roll even if they pulled or won a roll already. I have seen 1 person pull 4 or 5 items cause they won the rolls for them. I say bull ****.

Loot passing to follow!

[Yaga_Nub]

QFT

/signed

Yaga needs to make a character named Ten Percent.

I already have a character named Minusten Percent; what more do you want?

[Vengenance]

I already have a character named Minusten Percent; what more do you want?

+1; That is awesome Yaga!