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    Default Silver Threaded Handwraps & DA

    Silver threaded handwraps and cold iron handwraps should have a higher droprate, in DA. That quest is literally the ONLY one in the WHOLE game that drops that kind of items, and not only is one of the MOST boring quests in the whole game (because you can't do it on elite - you have to try on hard/normal, where the orthons don't even get throught my DR) but also has a HORRENDOUS droprate. I have yet to see not only a metal-handwrap, but a whole devil-breaker drop from that quest, and i've ran it 20+ times now.

    In short: make silver-threaded handwraps random, world drops (like every other kind of weapon) or improve droprate in DA by 500x-600x times on those specific items.

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    whuuuhhh.... do silver handwraps not drop on elite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stille_nacht View Post
    whuuuhhh.... do silver handwraps not drop on elite?
    They don't, which is kind of annoying. They get replaced on the loot tables by shard/boot ingredients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stille_nacht View Post
    whuuuhhh.... do silver handwraps not drop on elite?
    Nope. They don't drop on epic either.
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    With the need for those in crafting DR breakers I would see this as something that really needs fixing (along with other handwrap crafting bugs in the first place).

    I don't see why monks should get the short end of the stick on crafting DR breakers just because we use handwraps.

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    i pulled adamantine handwraps....
    it almost like everbright handwraps that "dont get damaged by rust monsters and oozes"

    you guys should really ban those two things being able to spawn on handwraps. >.>

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    They don't drop on elite. DA loot progression is:

    Normal -> Random loot, devil breakers
    Hard -> Random loot, devil breakers
    Elite -> Random loot, shroud ingredients, boots ingredients
    Epic -> Random loot, shroud igredients, boots ingredients, epic agumentation crystals.

    Also, the loot tables for handwraps are further watered down by the presence of adamantine handwraps, which are utterly useless, since every single monk get adamantine DR braking in natural level progression. Only the rare monk/fighter build could benefit from those, and even then it's not needed that much, simply because there aren't that many enemies with a adamantine dr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulnar13 View Post
    They don't drop on elite. DA loot progression is:

    Normal -> Random loot, devil breakers
    Hard -> Random loot, devil breakers
    Elite -> Random loot, shroud ingredients, boots ingredients
    Epic -> Random loot, shroud igredients, boots ingredients, epic agumentation crystals.

    Also, the loot tables for handwraps are further watered down by the presence of adamantine handwraps, which are utterly useless, since every single monk get adamantine DR braking in natural level progression. Only the rare monk/fighter build could benefit from those, and even then it's not needed that much, simply because there aren't that many enemies with a adamantine dr.
    There's Flametouched Iron, Byshek and Adamantine handwraps that are currently of little use (although Ftr12/Mnk8 builds might want Adamantine ones).

    Also, the Normal and Hard difficulties drop different DR breakers - Norm has ML6 ones, Hard ML10.
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    flame touched could be usefull (but only if they add some metalline crafting on crafting device).

    Adamandite can be usefull early if you can't find any metalline handwarps (first clay golem is availble in Tear). But still usless on high level.

    I think Handwarps (and Staves, or other wooden type weapons) Should recive metalled versions and drop as random loot everywhere.

    Als it could be good idea to add completion counter for DA (every 5-10 completions recive list of beaters 9 (4-6 of ml 6, 3-2 of ml 10, 1-2 random crafting component).

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    do these devil beaters bind?
    if not you can just keep on grinding larges or redscales and trade can you not?

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    You'd still have to find someone who has some and is willing to trade, which may prove just as difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testing1234 View Post
    do these devil beaters bind?
    if not you can just keep on grinding larges or redscales and trade can you not?
    The point is that with the actual droprate, and with the number of peoples that actually do DA hard/normal, there are no silver handwraps for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by sirgog
    There's Flametouched Iron, Byshek and Adamantine handwraps that are currently of little use (although Ftr12/Mnk8 builds might want Adamantine ones).
    Right. Forgot about those. Actually, the byshek COULD be useful (at least for when the xoriat madness part 2 pack will be released), while the flametouched are completly worthless.

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    I'm /signed with the op on this, I've run this quest many times on my 20 monk on normal/hard/elite and every time I open those chests a crushing wave of sadness overcomes me.

    I've only ever looted silverthreaded handwraps once, and it was when I was tr'ing my cleric back to lvl20 and we ran devil assault at level on hard.

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