Improve These Feats

[Silver_Darkness]

My Improvements
Acrobatics: Your jump and tumble skill are doubled
Athletics: +25% movement and swim speed. you get +5 to balance and swim
Alertness: Your spot and listen skills are doubled
Bullheaded: Intimidationrange is doubled, you get +5 Intimidation and +3 to will saves
Discipline: +5 to concentrate and +3 to will saves
Negotiator: +5 to haggle and diplomacy, Diplomacy range is doubled.
Nimble Fingers: +3 to disable device, pick lock, trap DCs (trapsmaking traps), and double the amount of trap parts received when disabling traps.
Self Sufficient: +5 to Heal and repair skill. You heal 25% more from repair and heal spells and items.
Stealthy: +5 to Hide and Move Silently, and +25% to sneaking movement speed

[kmau]

I actually think they should avoid +XX% buffs. Doubling skill ranks is too much too.

[Asketes]

My Improvements
Acrobatics: Your jump and tumble skill are doubled
Athletics: +25% movement and swim speed. you get +5 to balance and swim
Alertness: Your spot and listen skills are doubled
Bullheaded: Intimidationrange is doubled, you get +5 Intimidation and +3 to will saves
Discipline: +5 to concentrate and +3 to will saves
Negotiator: +5 to haggle and diplomacy, Diplomacy range is doubled.
Nimble Fingers: +3 to disable device, pick lock, trap DCs (trapsmaking traps), and double the amount of trap parts received when disabling traps.
Self Sufficient: +5 to Heal and repair skill. You heal 25% more from repair and heal spells and items.
Stealthy: +5 to Hide and Move Silently, and +25% to sneaking movement speed

OP much?

lol @ self sufficient

[t0r012]

Wow , just bit over the top there.

OMG
Athletics: +25% movement and swim speed. you get +5 to balance and swim
And I thought my capped monk already moved at ludicrous speed.

[ElfedLied4]

3 things

1: 25% movement speed is quite high. I would reduce this to 5 or 10%. This reduction is mostly based on the differences between fighters and barbarians. Barbs get a 10% boost for being a barb to match the pnp roots. If this change were to be implemented then fighters with their extra feats would be faster than the barbs who couldn't afford an additional feat.

2: 25% healing and repair amp is incredibly powerful. There is currently nothing that boosts repair, so this would be out of line with the rest of the game. And again, just thinking of the difference between fighter and barb, it would be too much to give this away for just a single feat.

3: you seem to be having trouble with your will saves (since you suggested that both Discipline and Bullheaded be directly more potent than Iron Will) so I suggest that you get buffed in situations where your will save is being assaulted. Freedom of Movement will make holds powerless, Protection From Evil should prevent charms/domination and Greater Heroism protects from fear.

[Impaqt]

WoW is on the shelf at the end.. Large Display.. lotsa boxes....

[TheDearLeader]

Funny.. even looking at them, I still wouldn't take most of them on any toon/build.

I dunno, that's the thing about "choices". There has to be a wrong choice in order for there to be a right one.

[Aesop]

Acrobatics: +2 to Balance and Tumble. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6

Athletics: +2 to Jump and Swim. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6.

Alertness: +2 to Spot and Listen. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6

Bullheaded: Intimidation Duration is increased by 3sec, you get +2 Intimidation and +2 to will saves vs Fear. If you put 10 ranks into Intimidate the bonus increases to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6


Discipline: +2 to concentrate and +2 to will saves. If you put 10 ranks into Concentratio the bonus increases to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6


Negotiator: Diplomacy Duration is increased by 3sec, you get +2 Diplomacy and +2 to will saves vs Enchantments. If you put 10 ranks into Diplomacy the bonus increases to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6

Nimble Fingers: Chance of getting Trap Parts is increased by 10%, you get +2 to Disable Device and Open Locks. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6

Self Sufficient: You gain a stacking 10% to Healing Amplification. +2 to Heal and Repair. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6

Stealthy: You gain a stacking 10% to movement while Stealthed. +2 to Hide and Move Silently. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6


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Skill Focus (x): +3 to (x). If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +6. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +10

Iron Will, Great Fortitude, Lightning Reflexes: +2 to Relative Save increases to +4 at Character level 10 and +6 at Character level 20

Aesop

[kmau]

Acrobatics: +2 to Balance and Tumble. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6

Athletics: +2 to Jump and Swim. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6.

Alertness: +2 to Spot and Listen. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6

Bullheaded: Intimidation Duration is increased by 3sec, you get +2 Intimidation and +2 to will saves vs Fear. If you put 10 ranks into Intimidate the bonus increases to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6


Discipline: +2 to concentrate and +2 to will saves. If you put 10 ranks into Concentratio the bonus increases to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6


Negotiator: Diplomacy Duration is increased by 3sec, you get +2 Diplomacy and +2 to will saves vs Enchantments. If you put 10 ranks into Diplomacy the bonus increases to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6

Nimble Fingers: Chance of getting Trap Parts is increased by 10%, you get +2 to Disable Device and Open Locks. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6

Self Sufficient: You gain a stacking 10% to Healing Amplification. +2 to Heal and Repair. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6

Stealthy: You gain a stacking 10% to movement while Stealthed. +2 to Hide and Move Silently. If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +4. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +6


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Skill Focus (x): +3 to (x). If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +6. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +10



Aesop

Wow that could actually work. Only exception would be Skill Focus: Umd.

[TheDearLeader]

Skill Focus (x): +3 to (x). If you put 10 ranks in this skill the bonuses improve to +6. If you put 20 Ranks in this skill the bonus improves to +10

Aesop

Take this...
apply it to UMD...
watch your head explode.

We'd see Barb 18/Rogue 2's out there capable of UMDing Meteor Swarm.

[Aesop]

Take this...
apply it to UMD...
watch your head explode.

We'd see Barb 18/Rogue 2's out there capable of UMDing Meteor Swarm.

Yeah that's true. Well my head wouldn't explode but someones might. Though honestly that specific example doesn't really disturb me much... I mean that wouldn't be able to do that while enraged and they'd have to actually dedicate the points to UMD. Also with the equipment available I belive they already can do that... On the top of that if Feats in general start actually be ing choices instead of the same build ove and over again then this is less of an issue anyway... What is the Barb giving up for that feat?

Aesop

[Asketes]

WoW is on the shelf at the end.. Large Display.. lotsa boxes....

You never dissapoint me Impaqt

[Aesop]

Snake Blood: +2 Reflex Save +2 Fort Save vs Poison. At Character Level 10 the bonus increases to +4 Fort Save vs Poison. At Character Level 20 the character becomes immune to Poison.


Mobility: +4 Bonus to AC while Tumbling. +2 AC while Moving. If The character has 10 Ranks in the Tumble Skill these bonuses increase to +6 AC while Tumbling and +3 AC while moving. At 20 Ranks of Tumble the bonuses become +8 AC while Tumbling +4 AC While moving.

Spring Attack: Rate of Attack while moving improves by 10% and attacks don't suffer the -4 penalty to hit.

Weapon Finesse: Dexterity Modifier replaces Strength Modifier for determining to hit of Light and Finesse weapons when Dexterity exceeds Strength. When Dexterity exceeds Strength the DC of Combat Feats are based off of Dexterity instead of Strength. When a critical hit is confirmed with a Light or Finesse weapon and Dexterity exceeds Strength then Dexterity is added to the damage before the Critical Multiplier is applied (similar to Seeker Bonuses).

Aesop

[Kahless_of_Cannith]

Take this...
apply it to UMD...
watch your head explode.

We'd see Barb 18/Rogue 2's out there capable of UMDing Meteor Swarm.

You could just make umd a special case, as we already do with regard to enhancements and items.

[TheDearLeader]

Snake Blood: +2 Reflex Save +2 Fort Save vs Poison. At Character Level 10 the bonus increases to +4 Fort Save vs Poison. At Character Level 20 the character becomes immune to Poison.


Mobility: +4 Bonus to AC while Tumbling. +2 AC while Moving. If The character has 10 Ranks in the Tumble Skill these bonuses increase to +6 AC while Tumbling and +3 AC while moving. At 20 Ranks of Tumble the bonuses become +8 AC while Tumbling +4 AC While moving.

Spring Attack: Rate of Attack while moving improves by 10% and attacks don't suffer the -4 penalty to hit.

Weapon Finesse: Dexterity Modifier replaces Strength Modifier for determining to hit of Light and Finesse weapons when Dexterity exceeds Strength. When Dexterity exceeds Strength the DC of Combat Feats are based off of Dexterity instead of Strength. When a critical hit is confirmed with a Light or Finesse weapon and Dexterity exceeds Strength then Dexterity is added to the damage before the Critical Multiplier is applied (similar to Seeker Bonuses).

Aesop

Now you're just getting further unrealistic. God, there are 20-page threads on the Weapon Finesse thing alone.

[Aesop]

Now you're just getting further unrealistic. God, there are 20-page threads on the Weapon Finesse thing alone.

Yeah the bottom three are ones I've suggested in some form or another a number of times in the past 5.5-6 years when this topic comes up.

You should see some of the other threads I've been in. 200 pages of Archery or Sword and Board suggestions. Damage mitigation threads as a method of supplimenting AC from Shields and heavier Armors.

Mobility I just added in the Tumble benefit because its similar to what is actually in PnP as far as Defensive Fighting... I just applied it to Mobility instead.



Aesop