Half-elf Rogue Acrobat

[Keplih]

Build Name: Half-elf Rogue Acrobat
Author: Keplih
Last Updated: 05/02/11

Key Words [Rogue, 28pts, Acrobat, Half-elf]

Objectives
A rogue build that used staves and that is still viable with traps.

Summary Haves (Posted here only to indicate what I have access to, not what I want for the build)
- Drow
- Warforged
- Half-elf
- Half-orc
- 28 pt build
- Ability to change feats (limited)
- Ability to change enhancements

Summary Have-Nots
- Tomes
- High level gear

Design
The build does not rely on tomes at all, though if you have any, it only improves the build. Working on Light Monk for this build for the additional buffs. The human attribute enhancements worked well with the fighter dilettante and monk attribute enhancements, making nice even numbers.

The final hp are a little low, though if you aren't holding aggro, it's workable.

Update: Changed up some of the feats.

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Half-Elf Male
(3 Monk \ 17 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 255
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 17
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    22
Dexterity            15                    18
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence         12                    12
Wisdom               10                    12
Charisma              8                     8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    16
Bluff                -1                    -1
Concentration         2                    22
Diplomacy             3                    22
Disable Device        5                    28
Haggle               -1                    -1
Heal                  0                     1
Hide                  2                     4
Intimidate           -1                    -1
Jump                  6                    15
Listen                0                     1
Move Silently         2                     4
Open Lock             6                    27
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     1
Search                5                    27
Spot                  4                    24
Swim                  2                     6
Tumble                6                    33
Use Magic Device      3                    22

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Fighter
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I


Level 3 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Half-Elf Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I


Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Wrack Construct I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Search I


Level 5 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Improved Balance II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II


Level 6 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Hamstring
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II


Level 7 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat I


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Half-Elf Strategy (Stunning Blow) II
Enhancement: Half-Elf Fighter Strength I


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost III
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III


Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Void Strike I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device III


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat II


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost IV


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device IV


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
Enhancement: Rogue Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Wrack Construct II


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Wrack Construct III
Enhancement: Improved Search II
Enhancement: Improved Search III

[Dirichlet]

Check http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=158960 if you haven't already.

You need 6 Monk for the passive ki regen while sneaking, and 7 for Wholeness of Body, but then I reckon 13 Rogue / 6 Monk / X (possibly 7 Monk) is a superior split than 17/3 anyway. The other popular split is 13 Rogue / 6 Fighter / 1 Monk, though that would obsolete the Fighter Dilly which you've used to great effect.

Going from 17 Rogue to 13 doesn't lose you much: Crippling Strike, 2d6 SA (Ninja Spy gets you one of those back) and a few skill points (you don't need to max Open Lock so you can save a few points there). On the other hand the benefits of 6 Monk (+1X) are huge: higher HP, BAB, AC and saves, 2nd level stances and strikes (which allows for fast finishers if you've got the ki for it), faster movement speed, slowfall (just because it looks cool), ki regen, shadowfade, plus whatever you get from the X level.

If you go 6 Monk then drop Dex to 14 putting the points in to Wis, and then shift Adaptability from Wis to Dex and pick up Monk Wisdom II. That'll give you a net gain of 2 Wis keeping the even scores.

Feats: WF:B isn't really needed, neither is the second Toughness. You could take Cleave / Great Cleave instead, or Combat Expertise / Improved Feint (though that would require at least a +1 Int tome, and swapping Diplomacy for Bluff). If you have a spare feat and don't want to pick up anything else active, take Quickdraw.

[Keplih]

I did. 3 variations of the build: 1 like mine but halfling (17/3), 1 orc but with 6 fighter/kensai, 1 all the way rogue and TR.

I wanted to avoid fighter on this simply bc I feel the extra feats would be better on a human. Preference of course. I also wanted to avoid a 3 class split.
I wasn't worried about passive Ki regen on dark monk. That's one of the reasons I went with light monk. That and the buffs/debuffs are nice. I guess it couldn't hurt to go dark.
I didn't think Cleave/Greatcleave was all that spectacular, but maybe I was looking at it wrong.
So now I'm confused about what to put as my 3rd split, or if I can just put another rogue level in there. If I'm putting in another level of fighter, then maybe I should just go human? Or I could stay helf and go with Barb dilletant for DR...
I can't change the attributes around unless I go 6 monk.

Edit 1: I was going to change the feats, but the reason I have WF: Bludgeon is because nothing else will fit there. I might change a few things around, but I'm not sure I want to wait until level 8 for THF. Is that reasonable? Suggestion below in red.

Edit 2: Looking over your only other posts, I noticed Hamstring. I could put that at level 6 and Cleave at level 18. That might make more sense. Suggestion below in blue.

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Fighter
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Handed Fighting <- Power Attack
Level 3 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Level 4 (Rogue)
Level 5 (Rogue)
Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons <- Cleave <- Hamstring
Level 7 (Rogue)
Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack <- Two Handed Fighting
Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness <- Great Cleave <- Cleave

[Keplih]

Did as you suggested, and I don't feel comfortable with it at all. The best I could use this build for is to start with the build above, and change to this one when I get further along in levels. My reasoning is that I feel he's gimped until mid to mid-high levels. I'd like to not ruin my name with this character before I have a chance to make it. However, here's the result:

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Half-Elf Male
(1 Fighter \ 6 Monk \ 13 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 243
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 17
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    20
Dexterity            14                    18
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         12                    12
Wisdom               12                    13
Charisma              8                     8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    21
Bluff                -1                    -1
Concentration         2                    26
Diplomacy             3                    20
Disable Device        5                    28
Haggle               -1                    -1
Heal                  1                     1
Hide                  3                     7
Intimidate           -1                    -1
Jump                  4                    16
Listen                1                     1
Move Silently         3                     5
Open Lock             6                     8
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     1
Search                5                    26
Spot                  5                    24
Swim                  2                     5
Tumble                6                    32
Use Magic Device      3                    22

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Barbarian
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Search I


Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Half-Elf Improved Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I


Level 6 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Enhancement: Void Strike I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Improved Balance II
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Half-Elf Barbarian Constitution I


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Improved Search II


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat I


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost III
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device III


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+5)
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost IV


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III


Level 19 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows
Enhancement: Static Charge


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device IV