Angel of Vengence ToD Sets

[Cor_Dath'a]

Now that you've added the Angel of Vengence prestige enhancement for the Favored Soul, can you please add the Angel of Vengence ToD ring set? Thank you.

[sweez]

/signed

And, please, make it at least comparable to Rahkir's.

[darksol23]

Now that you've added the Angel of Vengence prestige enhancement for the Favored Soul, can you please add the Angel of Vengence ToD ring set? Thank you.

/em casts True Resurrection on this thread....

Can we get a soonTM or a never? Any hint from a Dev regarding if and when FvS rings will be added would be most appreciated.


Note: If it was already addressed by a Dev, I applogize but I couldn't find it.

[The_Phenx]

We've been debating whether to add them to ToD or to a future treasure table. There are enough items in ToD currently that we're not sure if we want to expand those tables even more, making it more difficult to get a specific item.

I would be happy if you would go back and address some of the more worthless bonuses.. .like ermm... acrobat? small chance for -2 to to someones ac?

Not entirely sure what it should be but definitely not that.

[vasa00]

Would be great.

/Signed

[Eladrin]

We've been debating whether to add them to ToD or to a future treasure table. There are enough items in ToD currently that we're not sure if we want to expand those tables even more, making it more difficult to get a specific item.

[Carpone]

We've been debating whether to add them to ToD or to a future treasure table. There are enough items in ToD currently that we're not sure if we want to expand those tables even more, making it more difficult to get a specific item.

The ToD ring loot table is overpopulated with too many undesired rings. Unless you add some feature where you can turn in any ring + trophies of war + greater shard for another ring, please don't dilute the loot tables further. It's already painful enough trying to get the ring you want today. Adding more ring sets for current and upcoming PrEs would just exacerbate the problem and not make anyone happy.

[Eladiun]

The ToD ring loot table is overpopulated with too many undesired rings. Unless you add some feature where you can turn in any ring + trophies of war + greater shard for another ring, please don't dilute the loot tables further. It's already painful enough trying to get the ring you want today. Adding more ring sets for current and upcoming PrEs would just exacerbate the problem and not make anyone happy.

Like this idea.

[Yaga_Nub]

We've been debating whether to add them to ToD or to a future treasure table. There are enough items in ToD currently that we're not sure if we want to expand those tables even more, making it more difficult to get a specific item.

Could you somehow change the 20th mechanic, at least for this one raid, to ONLY include the rings that are applicable to your class showing up in the end reward list?

[Eladiun]

Could you somehow change the 20th mechanic, at least for this one raid, to ONLY include the rings that are applicable to your class showing up in the end reward list?

How do you define applicable? On my Wizard, I had all the Wizard ring sets and wanted a +6 strength w/ Exc Con. Limiting the list to a subset of rings based on class would actually suck in many cases. A number of builds work better with another classes rings sadly.

If they are going to do this just list all the rings.

[Lyranda]

Could you somehow change the 20th mechanic, at least for this one raid, to ONLY include the rings that are applicable to your class showing up in the end reward list?

Bad idea since many people like to farm some specific ring for their character, let say I need Wis +6 and Cha +1 on a ring...

Adding some formulaes to change a ring to another with throphies or whatever, seems a nice way to go.

[Zuldar]

We've been debating whether to add them to ToD or to a future treasure table. There are enough items in ToD currently that we're not sure if we want to expand those tables even more, making it more difficult to get a specific item.

How about letting us trade any tod ring combined with X amount of shavarath trophies for a desired ring?

[Yaga_Nub]

How do you define applicable? On my Wizard, I had all the Wizard ring sets and wanted a +6 strength w/ Exc Con. Limiting the list to a subset of rings based on class would actually suck in many cases. A number of builds work better with another classes rings sadly.

If they are going to do this just list all the rings.

Oh jesus christ you nit-picky person. How's this? The 20th reward list always includes all three rings from the class that you have the most number of levels in and then another random number of rings from the other classes

Screw the fact that other sets work better for other classes than the ones intended. That's what your 20 runs of the quest were for, to have a chance at those other rings.

Also screw trading rings with some other additional cost too. Turbine wants us to grind. Long live the grind!

[porq]

We've been debating whether to add them to ToD or to a future treasure table. There are enough items in ToD currently that we're not sure if we want to expand those tables even more, making it more difficult to get a specific item.

I would like to see them added, for the sake of completeness. All the other classes have a prestige based ring option out of the raid, another 2 or so rings for favored soul won't break it.

Could you somehow change the 20th mechanic, at least for this one raid, to ONLY include the rings that are applicable to your class showing up in the end reward list?

That's not a very good idea. Most melee characters are after the Shintao set, not really a class oriented reward for most melee. Not to mention blue bar classes that also melee, and might either want caster rings or melee rings. The game is pretty bad at random class based rewards as it is, if I check the box in options the game thinks I should be playing with a mace and shield as a (melee) fvs.

[kinar]

why not just make rings drop in all TOD chests?
And make Neck/Belts only drop in the other Amrath quests?

[Sarisa]

This just shows that 20th raid lists need to include ALL possible raid loot, though not all the possible tomes. The whole purpose of the 20th list is to reduce grind and give you a light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel to get at least get ONE of the items you are looking for.

ToD in particular, if other poster's calculations are correct, you only have a 40% or so chance of getting a particular ring from each 20th list, which can translate into requiring 60 or 80 runs to have a reasonable chance of getting the ring you want. You hear all the horror stories of casters needing 60 DQ's to get their Torc, and you get 10 items in a list out of 16 raid items+6 tomes at low rates. ToD is much worse. And to make it worse, ToD has a tier'ed loot system, where some rings are rarer than others.

[Illiain]

Could you somehow change the 20th mechanic, at least for this one raid, to ONLY include the rings that are applicable to your class showing up in the end reward list?

The problem with this is some people want rings that are helpful for their build, but not based on their class. How many rogues have the Shintao set, when they don't have monk levels, need concentration and have Wis as a dump stat. They just want the +2 hit/damage set bonus. Meanwhile the rogue sets are complete trash. Very few rogues actually use them, especially the Assassin set.

My cleric has Thamor's ring for the Chr and +3 exceptional Con. I have a FvS that would love the Warchanter band, but not all FvS care about exceptional Str and will get Chr through some other means. What about people that plan to TR into a different class, and want a ring that would work better for that class.

[Avidus]

why not just make rings drop in all TOD chests?
And make Neck/Belts only drop in the other Amrath quests?

I think the reason that this would not happen is because people would not complete ToD until they got the ring they were after.
You'd see groups forming up looting 3 chests (2 after judge/jailer 1 after shadowmaster) then recalling and reforming.
Thus avoiding the raid timer for raid loot.
Which would lead to people only attempting completion if they had their chosen rings.

However another option would be to put rings and trophies or just rings in he chest you get for killing sulo.

[Yaga_Nub]

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What about people that plan to TR into a different class, and want a ring that would work better for that class.

TR'ing is not the devs problem.

Again, you're running the quest 20 times before you get the 20th End Reward list. That 20th list should be about what's good for the toon who ran the 20 ToDs, not some future toon that you may or may not TR into.

[pjstechie]

How about letting us trade any tod ring combined with X amount of shavarath trophies for a desired ring?

even turning in a few rings and a number of trophies for a 20th end reward list would be an improvement.