Feasibility of a summoner build

[teclos]

Is it feasible/useful to try to make a summoner build with a wizard and going PM? Also how are the iron/steel (etc) companions? I have never used any of those before, I looked around and only found things that were six months or older

Danke in advance

[Cartheron]

Feasible? Yes.

Useful? Not really.

There is nothing your summons can do that you cant do better. Damage dealing? Summons damage output is really bad. Providing distraction - charm/suggestion line is much better. And if you want to kite something in your fw/ice storm/whatever or cluster mobs to blast them with fireball, summons wil definately not make this easier, only harder.

Only reason to do such build is coolness factor - if you want a small army, go for it. You can always reroll/spec it out

[danlan]

Not feasible.

[elujin]

it won't be a big help but you wont have to sacrifice all that mutch agmented summons is all you need it effects charmed monsters too in party play atleast the defenders suck **** grease

[Aerendil]

Feasible if you intend to solo.
Augment summons and buffing your pets will make them quite formidable in quests on normal or casual difficulty.

It's hard/elite, or certain endgame quests on norm, where they just don't scale well and get slaughtered.

Overall, I'd say don't bother. I, too, would love a "summoner" type build, but it just doesn't work well in DDO at present.

[Kriogen]

Summoner, Minion Master can be done in DDO, but is as useful as Wizard10/Sorcerer10 hybrid.

To make Minion Master good, you'd need:
- small number or just one **** big summoned pet
- or huge number of small ones

In DDO you can only summon 1 or 2 (maybe 3) small pets. To make it work, you'd need 10+ current pets (and you can't) or individual pets would have to be like that Warforged Titan from Weapon Shipment quest.

[richieelias27]

If you were dead-set on having the ultimate solo summoner, you could spend TP on gold hirelings (5), 1 PM summon, 1 summon monster, and possibly 5 more summons from hirelings if you bought the correct ones (some of them have their own summons, do not know if it is possible to get 5 different hirelings with summons at once) for a theoretical total of 12 full-time summons.

[unbongwah]

Also how are the iron/steel (etc) companions?

Terrible. Also they replace a regular summoned critter, IIRC, so pointless as well to a caster.

possibly 5 more summons from hirelings if you bought the correct ones (some of them have their own summons, do not know if it is possible to get 5 different hirelings with summons at once)

Is Augment Summoning transitive? I.e., if you have the feat and summon a hireling who then summons their own critter, does that critter also benefit from AS?

It's fairly easy to make a summoner-focused PM: just take Augment Summoning and the skeletal minion enhs. It's also fairly easy to respec out of a summoner focus once you realize how much they suck (at least at higher difficulties) by swapping AS for a more useful metamagic and dropping the minion enhs.

[teclos]

This news makes my inner necromancer sad

[vVAnjilaVv]

I don't know about a Summoner build, but a AM conjuror main/ enchantment minor and Augment Summon is very fun...I am in the process of building one now.

Don't underestimate the power of a few well placed buffs, a personal summoned pet, Augment Summon, and some charmed baddies......it is very very very effective.