PVP Heat Death

[dieselphiend]

I just got hit for 1800 hp's in the pvp pit by 'Heat Death'. It even bypassed my Pale Lavender Ioun Stone. What gives?

Thanks devs for completely and totally ruining pvp just for the sake of making epics harder. Whats the big deal anyhow? Why do you take it so personally when people figure out how to make something easy? Nerf caster DC's and change the entire game? IMO epics should be easy for people that put the grind in. Now melee's are totally screwed in pvp, as any old noob caster (sorc, fvs, cleric) can come in and pwn eveyone. All the gear in the game with multiple past life feats, completionist, etc, and a melee would still be toast verses a caster.

You guys just fail to realize that the ddo community will adapt to your changes and epics will be just as easy as they were before if not more so.

[Windex69]

[CrosisBlackwing]

This thread has reminded me of the "Perfect" PvP toon.
WF Fire Savant III 18 Sorc/2Monk

Con: 20+5 Lvls+7 Item+2 Tome+2 Racial+2 Ex+2 Rage+2 Yugo+2 Ship+2 Stance= 46 Con

Heat Death DC 10+18(Sorc)+18(Con)=DC 46 for 2000 Fire Damage
Sure, the Barbarians Survive, but were they a problem anyway?

[Crimsonplayer]

This thread has reminded me of the "Perfect" PvP toon.
WF Fire Savant III 18 Sorc/2Monk

Con: 20+5 Lvls+7 Item+2 Tome+2 Racial+2 Ex+2 Rage+2 Yugo+2 Ship+2 Stance= 46 Con

Heat Death DC 10+18(Sorc)+18(Con)=DC 46 for 2000 Fire Damage
Sure, the Barbarians Survive, but were they a problem anyway?

That's why you dance! Duh Barb's cant get away from it.

[Quarterling]

I guess you are the melee version of h4x00r1f1c? Or however you spelled that guy's name...

[BLAKROC]

I just got hit for 1800 hp's in the pvp pit by 'Heat Death'. It even bypassed my Purple Ioun Stone. What gives?

Thanks devs for completely and totally ruining pvp just for the sake of making epics harder. Whats the big deal anyhow? Why do you take it so personally when people figure out how to make something easy? Nerf caster DC's and change the entire game? IMO epics should be easy for people that put the grind in. Now melee's are totally screwed in pvp, as any old noob caster (sorc, fvs, cleric) can come in and pwn eveyone. All the gear in the game with multiple past life feats, completionist, etc, and a melee would still be toast verses a caster.

You guys just fail to realize that the ddo community will adapt to your changes and epics will be just as easy as they were before if not more so.

only 1800 hmmmmmm mebbe i missed a step in the respec.

[elujin]

yeah nevermind epics who cares about that we all know pvp is the real endgame

[protokon]

I gotta agree with diesel. There are some pretty cheesy tactics that could easily be fixed with minimal effort to balance PvP a tiny bit better. the past life magic missles thing is also something that is pretty stupid down there.

[Vordax]

I just got hit for 1800 hp's in the pvp pit by 'Heat Death'. It even bypassed my Purple Ioun Stone. What gives?

Great they finally fixed PVP, just needed one more nail in the coffin!

Vordax

[Lummy]

You can use GS weapon with Fire absorp x3 + Firegreave Boots + FireShield !

[Quarterling]

I gotta agree with diesel. There are some pretty cheesy tactics that could easily be fixed with minimal effort to balance PvP a tiny bit better. the past life magic missles thing is also something that is pretty stupid down there.

I don't think Turbine is looking to balance PvP. Read the new Power Word: Kill description. Take a look at this from the Release Notes.

In PvP, players will get a Fortitude save, and only face death if under 100 hit points.

Oh no, this isn't balanced because my caster can no longer be uber in the pit and my life has no meaning now. Also, I'm far too cheap and lazy to buy or grind khyber dragonshards.

I would say remove PvP from the game, but then we wouldn't get all these funny threads that are fun to read to pass the time.

[cdbd3rd]

....
I would say remove PvP from the game, ....

Excellent suggestion.

[Yajerman01]

I just got hit for 1800 hp's in the pvp pit by 'Heat Death'. It even bypassed my Purple Ioun Stone. What gives?

Thanks devs for completely and totally ruining pvp just for the sake of making epics harder. Whats the big deal anyhow? Why do you take it so personally when people figure out how to make something easy? Nerf caster DC's and change the entire game? IMO epics should be easy for people that put the grind in. Now melee's are totally screwed in pvp, as any old noob caster (sorc, fvs, cleric) can come in and pwn eveyone. All the gear in the game with multiple past life feats, completionist, etc, and a melee would still be toast verses a caster.

You guys just fail to realize that the ddo community will adapt to your changes and epics will be just as easy as they were before if not more so.

LOL, dont feel too bad Diesel, the "new" gank squad is in full effect, they have absurd caster "heat Death" and cleric/fvs have "divine punishment" which i was getting spammed on relentlessly last night

It seems that all the "bad drop casters" can efficiently run out all the decent pvper's, in particular, any meleer's who actually pvped well enough to make a difference in a pvp challenge.

It has made the peverbial bad player into the uberzestbombz.

It is what it is, I will jsut move on and actually get the gear I want on my toon now, rather than lazily waiting for particular groups to post an lfm. That and I guess I will now be forced to make a caster if I want to pvp.

[Truga]

I just got hit for 1800 hp's in the pvp pit by 'Heat Death'.

Did someone say popcorn?

[stoopid_cowboy]

/eating popcorn while spamming Divine Punishment

yuda

[Yajerman01]

/eating popcorn while spamming Divine Punishment

yuda

The only problem I see is that since these spells in effect wipe out melee'rs, even the ones that brought some form of balance back into the pit with decent skillz.

All the fights that have any real "skill value" will be sans melee'rs. You will end up just pvping with yourself because lets face it, even the nubs with no skillz that have these spells will be able to counter the most proficient pvper that utilizes these spells.

Its a sad day for those who enjoyed meleeing against a caster, its a great day fro casters who have obtained these new spells.

Its a sad day in PVP arena all together but a great day for those anti-pvper's

I will see more fo you in PVE now. cheers!

[Forzah]

Pvp is the only area in this game where you face mobs that aren't clueless and the only area where you remotely need some skill.

On a different note: the new cleric spell also absorbs 10 charges of an ioun stone, while it is a lvl 5 spell, what's the deal with that?

[heyytoi]

PvP took a big step down...

It's like mod 3 pvp were you only had 1 spell *chain lighting*

Now its divine punishment and the arcane version of this spell.

This game just got even more boring.

...PvP is not Awesome anymore...


(like Protokon said: it would only take a few changes to make pvp fun again... But magic missile is awesome )

[stoopid_cowboy]

The only problem I see is that since these spells in effect wipe out melee'rs, even the ones that brought some form of balance back into the pit with decent skillz.

No, the new DoT spells will take out a low HP arcane in just a couple of ticks. Melee's need a few more ticks to die.

Pvp is the only area in this game where you face mobs that aren't clueless and the only area where you remotely need some skill.

On a different note: the new cleric spell also absorbs 10 charges of an ioun stone, while it is a lvl 5 spell, what's the deal with that?

You need "skill" to jump around like an insane rabbit spamming every single hightened/maximized/empowered/ear dwellered spell on your bar while drinking tavern mana drinks?
Don't even get me started on Ioun stones...

...PvP is not Awesome anymore...

Sorry dood, PvP was never awesome. PvE is what makes this game awesome!

[Delt]

Agreed, the new spells kinda make pvp more silly than it already was. As usual though, if someone is using cheap tactics, use them yourself too. Melee's are kinda outta luck though.

It would be nice if they peeled off one dev for a pvp patch/improvement. Enough people use it.

PvP is the only hard, dynamic content you'll find in MMO's.