PVP Heat Death

[stille_nacht]

Is that odd or unnatural for any reason?

bearded devil- immune
orthon-immune
horned devil-immune
pit fiend-immune
hellhound-immune
tieflings- ?immune (unsure, as ive never really tried fire on them, do know that they get 0s in lowbie quests...)

and the first two comprise of pretty much all high end enemies :/, too much stuff is immune to fire for it to be really widespread D:, would be sweet vs. lailat though.

[katz]

Nope, I'll stay right here and do my very best to annoy you anti pvp'ers. Games evolve, and change, it's a fact. If DDO ever wants to seriously compete with gameslike WoW, then they'll have to pay attention to PVP.

is there a particular reason WHY you are trying to annoy people? i'm not anti-pvp and you're annoying the **** out of me too, because of your insufferable attitude. yes games change... but there's a reason i avoided WOW like the plague...

We don't need balance, just a large explorer area (pvp). Where different classes can take advantage of varrying terrain...

this is actually a good idea, and i like it. heck, use the existing pvp challenge arenas (not the pits, the separate arenas) if they have to to save on programming. however, sitting in the corner raging and stamping your little feet saying the equivalent of "i'ma hold my breath till i get what i want!!!! *inhale* *cheeks puff* *starts to turn blue*" is the WRONG way to get it. the devs don't listen to **** like that, and the rest of the community laughs at you and neg reps you into oblivion. quit acting like a spoiled brat and we may actually listen to you

[adamkatt]

Did those 10 people who stand in the lobster pit spamming metorswarm and mm get upset?!?!

I mean i stepped in just to test a spell out in the cannith lobster and told all thats what i wanted.. Then i get a tell from this wiz who was just spamming metorswarm, Im sorry your new... So i never got to test a thing i just got ****ed and left the lobster never to return. I would love to light up some of these so called pvpers in a real pvp game like good old quake3 or some of good battlefield games...

[zebidos]

What's all this about melee not having a chance?

1) Wait till the caster or ranger turns there back or is busy with someone else.

2) Rage yourself

3) Jump into the pit and charge the caster or ranger

4) Trip

5) Cast slash damage.

[kyleann]

PvP isn't the focus of this game, and it never will be. If it ever became a real focus it would have it's own server stated as a PvP server, but this wont ever happen. If you want that game, its WoW or CoD. DDO is PvE. The new updates, content, and about 99.99% of other development goes into PvE, and if they begin to go more in the PvP direction they stand to lose a LOT of player base.

I don't mind that some people enjoy it, because hey, to each their own. However, when they begin correcting PvP problems rather than the myriad other problems in-game there WILL be issues with that.

When you guys start paying specifically for PvP, then you get to have the changes you want. Since that won't ever happen, the system will remain a by-product of the rest of the content we get. Be happy they have PvP at all, because honestly with how broken it is I'm surprised it hasn't been taken offline yet.

[dieselphiend]

is there a particular reason WHY you are trying to annoy people? i'm not anti-pvp and you're annoying the **** out of me too, because of your insufferable attitude. yes games change... but there's a reason i avoided WOW like the plague...



this is actually a good idea, and i like it. heck, use the existing pvp challenge arenas (not the pits, the separate arenas) if they have to to save on programming. however, sitting in the corner raging and stamping your little feet saying the equivalent of "i'ma hold my breath till i get what i want!!!! *inhale* *cheeks puff* *starts to turn blue*" is the WRONG way to get it. the devs don't listen to **** like that, and the rest of the community laughs at you and neg reps you into oblivion. quit acting like a spoiled brat and we may actually listen to you

I'd could literally care less if anyone likes me, not one iota. I could mostly care less if PVP ever gets any attention from the devs. Sure, it would be cool, and in my opinion it needs developer attention. I just left the Thelanis Lobster pit, and there must have been 25 people in there, HAVING FUN. There was even a second instance. Your obviously very opinionated, and really do your very best to exaggerate all of your points, to the extent of falsehood. This thread was intended for the pro-PVP crowd, and since your here trolling you deserve to be annoyed. You're just lucky your not my next door neighbor, so go ahead, talk all that long distance bs, you're safe...

[katz]

...stuff...

my husband would take offense at the implication at the end of your post, and i strongly suggest you change it to avoid an infraction point or outright banning from the Cube. not saying anything further on THAT matter.

[dieselphiend]

[QUOTE=katz;3779407]my husband would take offense at the implication at the end of your post, and i strongly suggest you change it to avoid an infraction point or outright banning from the Cube. not saying anything further on THAT matter.[/QUOTE

misperception... your the one looking for something that isn't there...

[dieselphiend]

my husband would take offense at the implication at the end of your post, and i strongly suggest you change it to avoid an infraction point or outright banning from the Cube. not saying anything further on THAT matter.

If you want to take the route of a third grader, then so be it. Just proves who you really are...

[katz]

my husband would take offense at the implication at the end of your post, and i strongly suggest you change it to avoid an infraction point or outright banning from the Cube. not saying anything further on THAT matter.

misperception... your the one looking for something that isn't there...

ya know, i was nice. i didn't report you for it at first, but...

You're just lucky your not my next door neighbor, so go ahead, talk all that long distance bs, you're safe...

is a threat, no matter how you slice it or try to dance around the issue. feel good, tough guy, threatening a housewife? i'm not the one trolling here. i even agreed with you that a separate pvp zone would be a good and fun idea. YOU are the one being obnoxious and annoying everyone.

[dieselphiend]

ya know, i was nice. i didn't report you for it at first, but...

is a threat, no matter how you slice it or try to dance around the issue. feel good, tough guy, threatening a housewife? i'm not the one trolling here. i even agreed with you that a separate pvp zone would be a good and fun idea. YOU are the one being obnoxious and annoying everyone.

It's my thread, get out...

[dieselphiend]

So pvp is terrible, but people who aren't you enjoy it?

I must be the only ONE, right?



So 2 instances of the lobster are making you become a majority.

Except if there's any 5 quests going on, you're not the majority anymore.





Aside from TRs, epics, elite ToD...

I couldn't possibly count the time where there was more high level toons in the Lobster (Thelanis), then parties available to take them... There is often no one hosting a quest/raid in the 18 - 20 range at all. And no, I won't host. I've never enjoyed babysitting.

TR's, that just starting over, you're no longer capped (not end-game). Epics? What happens after you've ran them all? Elite Tod? Whats that take, 20 mins? Yes, PVP is the only real end-game content. In it's current form it sux, yet people play it everyday. I can only imagine how many MORE people would play it with significant design time invested...

[khaldan]

Let's take a second to define endgame, then:

What one does while at the level cap, or(and this one I can see disagreement with) TRing to get a particular set of past lives.

I'm adding in TRing, because of how endgame is percieved: I'm at X point, the only way I can get better is through gear. Instead of gear, however, I can grind 3.1/4.3 million and get a benefit, often one close to the same that I could get via gear.

As for the rest of your post: You've never seen a guild raid? Just because there aren't enough PuGs to take all the lobster people doesn't mean there aren't enough guild raids/quests.

After you've done all the epics once, I seriously doubt you have any epic items. Which is the entire point of running them, aside from the free true heart.

Elite ToD? I need +4 tomes. I'm not liable to get that in my first run, probably not in my first 20. There's always going to be a reason to run it, which means it's always going to be part of endgame. Heck, normal ToD can be considered endgame for rings.

Oh, and it's a (mostly)public forum. You post, anyone can respond.

[dieselphiend]

Let's take a second to define endgame, then:

What one does while at the level cap, or(and this one I can see disagreement with) TRing to get a particular set of past lives.

I'm adding in TRing, because of how endgame is percieved: I'm at X point, the only way I can get better is through gear. Instead of gear, however, I can grind 3.1/4.3 million and get a benefit, often one close to the same that I could get via gear.

As for the rest of your post: You've never seen a guild raid? Just because there aren't enough PuGs to take all the lobster people doesn't mean there aren't enough guild raids/quests.

After you've done all the epics once, I seriously doubt you have any epic items. Which is the entire point of running them, aside from the free true heart.

Elite ToD? I need +4 tomes. I'm not liable to get that in my first run, probably not in my first 20. There's always going to be a reason to run it, which means it's always going to be part of endgame. Heck, normal ToD can be considered endgame for rings.

Oh, and it's a (mostly)public forum. You post, anyone can respond.

Oh c'mon. The hunt for gear is perpetual... In that respect there is no end-game...

[khaldan]

Oh c'mon. The hunt for gear is perpetual... In that respect there is no end-game...

Then what would you classify endgame as?

[katz]

pvp, obviously. he's already stated that

[khaldan]

pvp, obviously. he's already stated that

The definition of endgame is what I'm trying to ask then.

[MartinusWyllt]

..Moreover, people who talk about pvp who enjoy it are usually condemned for it. This I never understood. So much hate for something that doesnt even effect non-pvpers. That is no different than hating someone blindly for their religious beliefs...

No, not like belief-based hate at all. You can neither prove nor disprove belief systems, all a matter of opinion. Knocking DDO players with a PvP obsession is more like trying to keep someone from wrecking their car or banging their head into a wall or any kind of futile activity you want to substitute.

Why?

Because there are choices out there...there are games designed/balanced specifically FOR PVP. If you live for taking up the challenge of playing against real people and want to do so in a competitive environment that is balanced for it, just look around a bit and find a game that suits what you want to do better...you will be happier for it.

(Though I do enjoy reading threads like this, keep at it, maybe your head will prove stronger than the wall someday.)

[Cordovan]

Please respect the PvP forums, if your only contribution to PvP threads is that you do not like PvP in DDO, or to harass those who do utilize this game option, you should not be posting in these threads. Please allow our players who want to discuss PvP in DDO to have a place to do so.