hows this pally?

[alexthegood]

drow pally level 8 pure pally hp 186 sp194. stats/str 20/18 dex twf/14con/10int/wis12/CHA24!/ saves/fort23/ref21/will20/ this is fully buffed saves are there any holes in this build thus far? is cha to hi str to low? con to low?

[sephiroth1084]

I'd say Cha is a little too high and Str a little too low. What were your starting stats for those? Likely not going to be too big a deal.
Wis is too high unless that is a 12 with an item and tome.

[Phemt81]

I'd say Cha is a little too high

He may wants to pick divine might (aka i'm a sorcerer with an armor )

[alexthegood]

He may wants to pick divine might (aka i'm a sorcerer with an armor )

yes im speeced to get all them + alota healing form LOH at level 8 it heals 126 no healing amp

[Phemt81]

yes im speeced to get all them + alota healing form LOH at level 8 it heals 126 no healing amp

And your pally isn't a gimp when going melee?

Until you have access to 36 builds and +3 tomes that enhancement is way too expensive in my honest opinion.

[alexthegood]

And your pally isn't a gimp when going melee?

Until you have access to 36 builds and +3 tomes that enhancement is way too expensive in my honest opinion.

eh hes ok on hard diffs at his level elite he cant really tank... but i have never died yet.. i should be in a premadath guild :O

[sephiroth1084]

And your pally isn't a gimp when going melee?

Until you have access to 36 builds and +3 tomes that enhancement is way too expensive in my honest opinion.

What are you talking about?

[alexthegood]

I'd say Cha is a little too high and Str a little too low. What were your starting stats for those? Likely not going to be too big a deal.
Wis is too high unless that is a 12 with an item and tome.

tome +2 bound. so i ate it no str item +3 cha item str starting 17 dex 15/cha17/wis10/con14/int10/

[sephiroth1084]

tome +2 bound. so i ate it no str item +3 cha item str starting 17 dex 15/cha17/wis10/con14/int10/

Yeah, that looks all right. I think you wasted 2 points on Wis, but that's not a big deal.

Go get a Str item! AH likely has +3 Str items available in a few slots, +4s at level 9 (maybe some RR items for lvl 7) and several quests in or below your range can yield decent Str items.

[alexthegood]

Yeah, that looks all right. I think you wasted 2 points on Wis, but that's not a big deal.

Go get a Str item! AH likely has +3 Str items available in a few slots, +4s at level 9 (maybe some RR items for lvl 7) and several quests in or below your range can yield decent Str items.

thanks fixed it.

[Dandonk]

str starting 17 dex 15/cha17/wis10/con14/int10/

I'm not sure I understand this.

Race: Drow
STR 17 (13 points)
DEX 15 (5 points)
CON 14 (10 points)
INT 10 (0 points)
WIS 10 (2 points)
CHA 17 (8 points)

Total: 38 points.

Have I misunderstood something?

[alexthegood]

I'm not sure I understand this.

Race: Drow
STR 17 (13 points)
DEX 15 (5 points)
CON 14 (10 points)
INT 10 (0 points)
WIS 10 (2 points)
CHA 17 (8 points)

Total: 38 points.

Have I misunderstood something?

a few tomes go a long way got lucky on my main

[elujin]

dm doesn't exclude Divine sacrifice does it i like dm planning on full ranks for sure

[Dulcimerist]

Are you looking to do a build similar to this one?:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=291669

[Phemt81]

I am aware they can be used at the same time, i'd add DoS stance too, but i am not talking about how to do dps with a paladin.

I am simply saying that divine might has too much as a pre-requisite for an all round good paladin. It seems i am the only one thinking that though.

[eulogy098]

I am aware they can be used at the same time, i'd add DoS stance too, but i am not talking about how to do dps with a paladin.

I am simply saying that divine might has too much as a pre-requisite for an all round good paladin. It seems i am the only one thinking that though.

Divine Might is highly costly, I'm about level 8 on my 36point paladin and in building him I will only be able to get Divine Might 3. I don't know how any normal (32) build can spread their stats enough to get DM4 without being totally gimp. STR and HP are far too important to dump. DM4 is only two more damage than DM3 but requires a lot more to get (4 AP and 2 more base cha is not nothing....)

Far as I worked it out, DM3 was best bang-for-buck and DM4 was just absurdly expensive.

[elraido]

Divine Might is highly costly, I'm about level 8 on my 36point paladin and in building him I will only be able to get Divine Might 3. I don't know how any normal (32) build can spread their stats enough to get DM4 without being totally gimp. STR and HP are far too important to dump. DM4 is only two more damage than DM3 but requires a lot more to get (4 AP and 2 more base cha is not nothing....)

Far as I worked it out, DM3 was best bang-for-buck and DM4 was just absurdly expensive.

I don't see an issue with it on my main. AC is low 80's selfbuffed with no buff shorter than 1:30. DPS is fine. Intim is good (mid 60's). Incite is way up there (100%+50%+20%+15%). UMD is good. Is his DPS threw the roof, no. But it can more than hold its own vs most things. With the new shield mastery, his damage mitigation it rather good as well.

[sephiroth1084]

We are talking about divine might: it requires a pure charisma of 20(no enhancements considered!) and 10 AP to get +8 damage for 1 minute.

Divine sacrifice is 278 times better.

(planning to TR into a paladin)

18+2 tome, or 17+3 tome.

Not too bad on a drow:
15
15
12
10
8
17

That's a regular drow. TR 1 can get 16 Str. TR 2 can get 13 Con or 18 Cha or drop Str to 15 and get Con up to 14.

[Phemt81]

Are you really making a melee with 12 base CON?

[sephiroth1084]

Are you really making a melee with 12 base CON?

As big a proponent as I am about getting HP, remember that the difference between a 12 and a 14 Con is only 20 HP. Hardly going from reasonable to gimp over that threshold.