Quicken Feat

[brillsam]

As a Cleric or FVS when do you recommend using the quicken feat? I tend to have it turned on all the time until my mana gets less than 50%.

Thx

[danotmano1998]

As a Cleric or FVS when do you recommend using the quicken feat? I tend to have it turned on all the time until my mana gets less than 50%.

Thx

I use it when I know I'm about to get mobbed and I need to throw some AOE's for crowd control. Most often used right before I know there's going to be a big ugly battle. For typical running around I keep it off, as it burns through spell points quicker.

[Puppetian]

I've personally kept it on all the time since level 12, bar buffing of course. That being said, 10 more sp ain't a big deal for a FvS, Clerics may find it harder to keep up.

[Impaqt]

Pick it up and turn it on at Level 12.

Sometimes I turn it off to buff... But for the most part. Its always on.

[FuzzyDuck81]

I tend to keep it on constantly, except for bulk buffing, but then i'm more melee than caster so i like to be sure I dont get interrupted if/when i need to cast in an emergency.

IMO dont worry so much about turning it off when below 50% mana as make sure its active when you need to be certain that your casting isnt going to be interrupted.

[Chette]

I leave mine one almost all the time, but then again I also have minimal concentration and invested in balance and jump instead.

Blade Barrier and Mass-Heal simply take too long to cast un-quickened. Blade Barrier may be fixed in the update, I'm not sure how much faster it has gotten. But you can't get a mass-heal off in time when it's needed if you don't have quicken on. I frequently turn it off for buffing, but more often than not as of late I leave it on as I often forget to turn it back on afterward, which can lead to chaos. I have enough spell points, and excellent SP conservation, such that the few points it costs me for using quicken when I don't need it are well worth the risk of not having it on when I do need it.

[Qezuzu]

If you plan on healing the more challenging raids, it's a must.

Mass heal isn't viable without it, for one.

[Iaga]

I've personally kept it on all the time since level 12, bar buffing of course. That being said, 10 more sp ain't a big deal for a FvS, Clerics may find it harder to keep up.

Same here.

[muffinlad]

quicken is a tactical Feat. I never (intentionally) have it on outside of combat- So, not much point for it during the buffing/post combat heal phases.

However, during combat, it allows you to be a whirling engine of life and death, dropping heals, blade barriers and comet falls with no chance of interuption. I have seen many a cleric/FvS turn a fight around from the amount of pure kick-backside you can deliver with it.

I have seen a few players who can do without it...alas, I am not one of them.

muffinstuff

[stoerm]

Going to show my noobiness here. My main is a level 15 cleric. I picked up quicken as per recommendations. I'll put it on to cast blade barriers in mid battle, but there are few other situations where I'll use it. I feel the sp cost is too high. Perhaps when I get into more difficult quests it will become more critical.

[Vissarion]

Going to show my noobiness here. My main is a level 15 cleric. I picked up quicken as per recommendations. I'll put it on to cast blade barriers in mid battle, but there are few other situations where I'll use it. I feel the sp cost is too high. Perhaps when I get into more difficult quests it will become more critical.

Yes, it will. In high level raids and epics, relying solely on concentration checks will fall short because spike damage is too frequent and high.

Until endgame stuff, it's really just useful for blade barrier or healing while meleeing.

[danotmano1998]

Blade Barrier may be fixed in the update, I'm not sure how much faster it has gotten.

This I have read a couple of times, and I'm anxious to see just how fast it HAS gotten.
If it is a significant speed bonus, then the value of quicken has just been reduced. (At least for most non-epic stuff)

I like the idea of taking this feat as opposed to putting skill points in concentration, especially since most of my cleric builds end up being just a little shorter than I like on the skill points.

[stoerm]

Yes, it will. In high level raids and epics, relying solely on concentration checks will fall short because spike damage is too frequent and high.

Yeah, this is how I see it progressing. When the baddies can one- or two-shot most player characters it will be mandatory. So far for me it's been a feat I switch on when necessary, rather than one I switch off for buffs.

/fvs spell point envy

[Chette]

This I have read a couple of times, and I'm anxious to see just how fast it HAS gotten.
If it is a significant speed bonus, then the value of quicken has just been reduced. (At least for most non-epic stuff)

I like the idea of taking this feat as opposed to putting skill points in concentration, especially since most of my cleric builds end up being just a little shorter than I like on the skill points.

Ya, I can't wait to see it. Apparently a quickened blade barrier is basically instant. On a melee FvS with the new prestige enhancements that give +30% to untyped damage this will mean you can contribute significant damage from spells without having to really stop swinging. Looking forward to the update

[Vissarion]

Ya, I can't wait to see it. Apparently a quickened blade barrier is basically instant. On a melee FvS with the new prestige enhancements that give +30% to untyped damage this will mean you can contribute significant damage from spells without having to really stop swinging. Looking forward to the update

Having tested on Lamaland, unquicked Blade Barrier can now be jump cast in the same way as Fire Wall. Quickened is indeed instantaneous.

Oh yeah, that **** just got real.

[Arlathen]

@OP

Turn it off to buff, turn it on for the rest of the quest generally. Cuts downtime of melee'ing when self buffing DF/DP before a fight. Makes Aura Bursts cast alot quicker, for free. makes single target healing multiple spread-out party members alot more efficient.

Raid Healing - Always on. Absolutely. Even more especially if your using Mass Heal for healing efficiency.

[PNellesen]

Having tested on Lamaland, unquicked Blade Barrier can now be jump cast in the same way as Fire Wall. Quickened is indeed instantaneous.

Oh yeah, that **** just got real.

I was hoping someone would say that

This ALMOST makes up for the removal of Extend. Almost.

[Drekisen]

Keep in mind....you will still get interrupted even with Quicken on if you get tripped or knocked down in some form.

[lethargos]

Keep in mind....you will still get interrupted even with Quicken on if you get tripped or knocked down in some form.

Yeh, you need both quicken and air savant III for that.

[The_Great_Samulas]

Quicken can be instrumental in saving a bad situation or in certain encounter types (many epics), but it tends to be over-used. This is particularly noteworthy on newer players that tend to leave it on and use it as a "crutch". You see it also on veteran players that get addicted to it and never grow out of its use. Here is my view on quicken:

Quicken is a powerful feat that can greatly reduce your reaction time and save characters from catastrophic damage. Because of this, many actually use it constantly, as has been mentioned. The down-side of this is healers actually become reliant upon it and never grow out of its use. You don't need it on almost all of the time once you are experienced (and provided you have concentration). People get used to it though and decide they can no longer keep people up without it. Quicken doesn't help you with interruption on heal scrolls, so if you have no concentration you can be interrupted by just about anything, when scrolling (a big mana saving technique). Quicken itself wastes tons of mana (15-20% of your mana pool will go to quickening on a proficient caster, more if not). On an end stage cleric with 2100-2300 mana this is 315-460 mana just to quicken things. Basically a mana pot. Not to mention the fact that it actuallly can kill mana saving healing techniques you can use, because only big heals are actually feasible with quicken. And what about actually being a cleric and not a healbot? You going to quicken all your offensive spells too?

There are techniques to prevent interuption of spells that you will never learn if you don't try to wean yourself off the quicken crutch. You can't even try them if you don't get concentration. One of the biggest mana saving things a caster of any type needs to learn is the proper use of metamagics. You can always spot the cleric relying upon quicken - he's the one with no mana...