...This is an impossible choice

[Radiodada]

Alright, I'm just arbitrarily, drunkenly venting here.
I, for the obvious reason of "I like to be effin awesome" have decided to play a divine casters. I like healing, I like being able to hit things, and on the day when I level a cleric or fvs to bladestorm levels, it will be a thing of BEAUTY! Pure, unadulterated, glorious, stabby beauty.
I like characters that can say "Oh, hai! hitting things...and healing"
Like Clerics, or Favored Souls, or sometimes Bards.
Up until U9's potential existence, I was like "oh, cleric is obviously cooler, by my COMPLETELY arbitrary argument system of "oh. pre's are just INSANELY COOL! therefore, clerics are cooler than favored souls...cuz workin pre".

Now though, it's looking like not only will clerics have an awesome PrE that justifies me being to lazy to actually CLICK on the other champion, but now FVS are getting "super-awesome debuff-the-heck-outta-everything" as a PrE. Both PrE's are incredibly cool looking on paper. Sofar, I KNOW the cleric prestige class is made of a combination of 80% awesomeness, 20% "foolish mortal, hug the cleric"-ness. And the FvS one looks equally amazing.
Now, they're two INSANELY cool sides of the same coin.

My new problem is "how do I choose"?

Flip a coin?
Darts?
Rock/Paper/Scissors against myself?

Help me decide between the awesomeness of classic 18clr/2fighter 2hf-with-many-cool-casty/stabby feats
lord of blades fvs,
or half elf silver-flame fvs(who starts out a dilettante fighter, and ends up being a dilettantey pally), for casty+insane mutant DC reduction powers


I am so torn
Help me decide

[Teech]

*snip*
My new problem is "how do I choose"?

Flip a coin?
Darts?
Rock/Paper/Scissors against myself?

I vote 'darts on yourself'. Let us know how it goes...

[Thrudh]

My new problem is "how do I choose"?

Whenever you ask yourself this question, you know the devs are doing a good job.

[jcTharin]

I vote 'darts on yourself'. Let us know how it goes...

ever play ceiling darts?

[Radiodada]

...all these darts-on-myself answers sound like they'd hurt.
I'm anti-pain.

[Schmoe]

Have another drink and mull it over.

[Teech]

To be a bit more constructive, I'd go with the FVS.
All builds will be able to heal and dps, but (I think) only the FVS, by virtue of DR/15, will probably be able to tank as well.

I'm no min-maxer though so don't take my work for it.

[Chai]

Whenever you ask yourself this question, you know the devs are doing a good job.

QFT.

Its when theres only one optimal choice and the others are simply viable or for use in viable flavor style multiclass builds that I see an issue. The three rogue PRE are a good example of this.

[curboUS]

Help me decide between the awesomeness of classic 18clr/2fighter 2hf-with-many-cool-casty/stabby feats
lord of blades fvs,
or half elf silver-flame fvs(who starts out a dilettante fighter, and ends up being a dilettantey pally), for casty+insane mutant DC reduction powers


I am so torn
Help me decide

Well ... obvious answer is : Do Both

I can tell you that i do love my 18c/2f dorf. Tremendous fun to play.
Ofc the healing aura rocks and without it life would be harder.

The FS PrClass will propably be fun as well, but that is in the (near) future while the 18/2 is here today.

So we are back to build both

[tekkentroop]

I dont have fvs unlocked so I dont have a choice yet... but Id also just try both. At least there arent too many pres to chose from, otherwise id run out of char slots (got a bard and a cleric as mains right now). Since radiant servant has been around for some time, just make a fvs to try out the new pre, you can always go back to cleric if you dont like it.

[doubledge]

[countfitz]

Whenever you ask yourself this question, you know the devs are doing a good job.

This.

Now lets just do the same with weapons. Come on bastard swords being useful, or armor and shields, or another option for our helmet spot...

But serious, awesome job.

[transtemporal]

I definitely agree. FvS PrE is very cool. For me, it'll actually give me a reason to play my FvS. She wasn't getting much airtime when I have the option of playing my cleric.

[jcTharin]

mental pain!

[varusso]

My new problem is "how do I choose"?

Dont. Buy another character slot or delete one of those crappy toons you never play anymore and roll one of each when U9 goes live. See for yourself how each one ACTUALLY plays, rather than trying to gauge it on paper.

Or go to Lama-land and roll one of each, play them both as high as you can before U9, and make a more informed decision. Thats a huge chunk of why Lama exists in the first place, so players can see for themselves how new things work and offer feedback.

[Meat-Head]

FVS has better defense via DR and more SP

Cleric has aura AND divine might availability which makes for more potential DPS than FVS.

Both good choices.

[Nyvn]

I have one of each, and well they're both awesome to play. There is no wrong choice here.

[Bodic]

of current live fvs > cleric of any kind.

Wings always win.

after U9 just delete your cleric its worthless.

in all seriousness 1000 pt cometfalls w/o an eardweller over the top light damage the archon alone will dish more light dps than a cleric.

you dont have to name a champion you can melee yourself.

and wings.

[erikbozelie]

be happy its just 2 options.

[wax_on_wax_off]

Option C. Have 1 of each?