protection from evil

[die]

I thought this spell would protect you from command and hold.. is that right and if so its broke {the spell}..our silver flame priest on our ship throws it but it does not seem too be working is this a issue ?

[Jaid314]

I thought this spell would protect you from command and hold.. is that right and if so its broke {the spell}..our silver flame priest on our ship throws it but it does not seem too be working is this a issue ?

don't think it protects from hold, but it should protect from command iirc.

that said, often when you get it from non-standard sources it doesn't seem to work properly.

[Shade]

yea currently the only functioning source of prot evil is from a player casted spell, or clicky.

Ship buff does not work.
Nor does the perm effect on silver flame fragment/talisman. (they partially work and provide the saves, but not the command immunity)

note the command immunity should only work vs evil casters tho. (not neutral or good)

But that covers 99% of monsters in the game.

[die]

Ty guys for the reply's Take care and Happy Hunting

[BrightAsh]

yea currently the only functioning source of prot evil is from a player casted spell, or clicky.

Ship buff does not work.
Nor does the perm effect on silver flame fragment/talisman. (they partially work and provide the saves, but not the command immunity)

note the command immunity should only work vs evil casters tho. (not neutral or good)

But that covers 99% of monsters in the game.

Is that so? Isn't it so that DnD considers mind control spells as an evil trade. So that whoever casts command, prot form evil always work?
Not sure though if that is only in PnP or actually in DDO as well

[TheDjinnFor]

Is that so? Isn't it so that DnD considers mind control spells as an evil trade. So that whoever casts command, prot form evil always work?
Not sure though if that is only in PnP or actually in DDO as well

In ADnD 3.5, which is the version this game is based on, the spell is irrelevant and only the casters alignment applies. You can be a chaotic good necromancer, or a neutral enchanter, or whatever, and THAT will be the sole factor in determining what kind of alignment is associated with your spells.

[Matuse]

Immunity to Command, Greater Command, and vampiric Domination.

Hold is Freedom of Movement.

[Missing_Minds]

Immunity to Command, Greater Command, and vampiric Domination.

Hold is Freedom of Movement.

This is correct. Not even in PnP will Protect from Evil protect you from Hold, Hideous Laughter, Dance, etc. You have to read the FAQ for that, however, you won't find clear cut answers in the SRD/books.

Granted, house rules over ride this.

[totalmir]

Nor does the perm effect on silver flame fragment/talisman. (they partially work and provide the saves, but not the command immunity)

The silver flame fragment DOES provide command immunity.I tested it in desecrated temple of Vol,and it works.It might not work though if the caster him/her self is not evil.

[BrightAsh]

In ADnD 3.5, which is the version this game is based on, the spell is irrelevant and only the casters alignment applies. You can be a chaotic good necromancer, or a neutral enchanter, or whatever, and THAT will be the sole factor in determining what kind of alignment is associated with your spells.

A cool, didn't know that. thanks!

[Shade]

The silver flame fragment DOES provide command immunity.I tested it in desecrated temple of Vol,and it works.It might not work though if the caster him/her self is not evil.

good to know, could just be the silver flame talisman then.. got commanded with it on a while ago.

Far as a non evil mob that casts greater command:
The one I tested was the von3 marut. Tho he also dispells, so its a tricky thing to be sure of.

[richieelias27]

good to know, could just be the silver flame talisman then.. got commanded with it on a while ago.

Far as a non evil mob that casts greater command:
The one I tested was the von3 marut. Tho he also dispells, so its a tricky thing to be sure of.

I'm pretty sure that Marut works as intended and commands with prot from evil on.

(But can't be 100% sure as I cant pop in and test it right this second as I am at work. Though I do remember at some point thinking "great, prot from evil is bugged" before remembering "oh yeah, maruts are lawful neutral". Then he stepped on me.)

[Ridag]

I have had a few different guildies tell me that they were getting commanded while scroll farming in the first room of Wiz King with their casted (not ship buff) Protection from Evil on, the ones saying this were divines. I have not had a problem with my own casted arcane Protection from Evil, nor have any other arcanes that I have asked.

So perhaps the bug is with the divine version of PfE and not just the ship buff?

[Impaqt]

I clear that room on my FvS quite a bit... My Magic circle works fine. no commands.

[Ridag]

I clear that room on my FvS quite a bit... My Magic circle works fine. no commands.

Not magic circle, specifically level 1 PfE.

[LordPiglet]

For some reason I thought you had to use magic circle and not protection from evil to prevent command in DDO. I recall reading this on the forums at some point. I'm not certain as my FvS doesn't carry either spell, but my paly does carry Magic Circle and I haven't seen this issue at 14.

[Impaqt]

For some reason I thought you had to use magic circle and not protection from evil to prevent command in DDO. I recall reading this on the forums at some point. I'm not certain as my FvS doesn't carry either spell, but my paly does carry Magic Circle and I haven't seen this issue at 14.

Magic Circle against evil = Mass Protection from Evil. No difference.

[Ridag]

Magic Circle against evil = Mass Protection from Evil. No difference.

I don't have a divine to test with, so I can only relay what I was told. If the spells are behaving differently that would be good to know though, so maybe someone with the time and inclination can check it out.

I told my guildies to check it out again and bug report if it is in fact not working for them.

Personally I have been commanded with the ship buff on, but not commanded with the arcane level 1 spell.

[Sarisa]

I have never been Command'ed or Greater Command'ed when I had Magic Circle or the single target PfE, cast from either my divine or my arcane.

The only time I ever got Greater Command'ed in the Shroud was when the Gnoll dispel'ed PfE off of me first.

Also, never got Command'ed in eWizKing while PfE was active.