Place to scribble notes on TRing my bard

**jeremyt** · 04-18-2011, 02:09 PM

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Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Female
(1 Fighter \ 1 Rogue \ 18 Bard) 
Hit Points: 340
Spell Points: 522 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 13
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    29
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              8                    12

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     7
Bluff                -1                     1
Concentration         3                     4
Diplomacy            -1                     1
Disable Device        5                    25
Haggle                3                    28
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate           -1                     5
Jump                  9                    14
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock             3                     4
Perform              n/a                   25
Repair                1                     2
Search                5                    26
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  9                    14
Tumble                3                     4
Use Magic Device      3                    24

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Bard)


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Improved Haggle I
Enhancement: Improved Haggle II
Enhancement: Improved Haggle III
Enhancement: Improved Haggle IV
Enhancement: Improved Perform I
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

Figure this would set me up for WC 3, retain traps. Ditch a highly useless evasion (currently a THF 16 bard 2 rog 2 fighter human) and bump damage a solid amount with h-orcness

Str:
20 start + 5 level ups + 6 ench +2 horc enh + 3 exc + 2 tome + 2 ship buff = 40. +2 rage +2 yugo + 2-4 madstone = 46-48 + 2 horc hurtsies +6 titan grip = 54-56

HP:
340 + 60 con item + 20 Exc con + 20 toughness + 10 agro favor + 30 GFL + 45 GS item = 525 unbuffed.
+ 20 rage, 40-80 madstone, 20 ship shrine=605-640

**Nessa87** · 04-18-2011, 05:15 PM

I am not sure if the spell penetartion feat does much difference on str based bard. I might be wrong but I think that it does not help much.
I would probably switch spell penetration and the two toughnesses for maximize, empower heal and quicken so the bard can heal - but that is only my personal preference.
Otherwise looks fine to me.

**jeremyt** · 04-18-2011, 06:42 PM

spell pen would be to land irr dances

The full meta setup is what im running right now. Problem is I rarely utilize themand when i do, my SP is gone immediately. why I was going to explore a slightly different route by bypassing SP healing altogether this round. Will probably chicken out and switch back before it goes live though

**jeremyt** · 04-20-2011, 05:46 AM

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Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Male
(1 Fighter \ 1 Barbarian \ 18 Bard) 
Hit Points: 324
Spell Points: 549 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 11
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    29
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         17                    19
Intelligence          6                     8
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             11                    14

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               2                    23
Bluff                 0                     2
Concentration         3                     4
Diplomacy             0                     2
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                4                    25
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            0                     6
Jump                  5                    12
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               4                    25
Repair               -2                    -1
Search               -2                    -1
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  5                     9
Tumble                0                     5
Use Magic Device      4                    25

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Barbarian)


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 16 (Bard)


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III

Pondered fighter for stunning blow option, +1 str and extra feat. But went for the speed of barb instead.

**jeremyt** · 04-20-2011, 06:37 AM

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Level 20 Neutral Good Half-Orc Male
(1 Fighter \ 1 Barbarian \ 18 Bard) 
Hit Points: 368
Spell Points: 576 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 11
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    29
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             12                    16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               2                    23
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         7                    27
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                5                    26
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            1                     7
Jump                  5                    13
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               5                    26
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  5                     9
Tumble                0                     3
Use Magic Device      5                    26

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Barbarian)


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Bard)


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost II
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

Str:
20 start + 5 level ups + 6 ench +2 horc enh + 3 exc + 2 tome + 2 ship buff = 40. +2 rage +2 yugo + 2-4 madstone = 46-48 + 2 horc hurtsies +6 titan grip = 54-56

HP:
368 + 60 con item + 20 Exc con + 20 toughness + 10 agro favor + 40 SFL + 45 GS item = 543 unbuffed.
+ 20 rage + 20 ship = 583 + 40-80 madstone =623-663

**jeremyt** · 04-20-2011, 07:11 AM

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Level 20 True Neutral Dwarf Female
(1 Fighter \ 1 Barbarian \ 18 Bard) 
Hit Points: 374
Spell Points: 475 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 11
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    25
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         19                    23
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              9                    11

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                    10
Bluff                -1                     0
Concentration         8                    29
Diplomacy            -1                     0
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                    26
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            0                    28
Jump                  4                    11
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               3                    23
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     3
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  4                     7
Tumble                1                     2
Use Magic Device      3                    23

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Barbarian)


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery


Level 16 (Bard)


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery II
Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Improved Haggle I
Enhancement: Improved Haggle II
Enhancement: Improved Haggle III
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

Str:
18 start + 5 level ups + 6 ench + 1 exc + 2 tome + 2 ship buff = 34 +2 rage +2 yugo = 38 + 2-4 madstone + gloves = 46-48

HP:
374 + 60 con item + 20 Exc con + 20 toughness + 10 agro favor + 40 SFL + 45 GS item = 549 unbuffed.
+ 20 rage + 20 ship = 589 + 40-80 madstone =629-669

**wax_on_wax_off** · 04-20-2011, 08:15 AM

Shield blocking plus intim doesn't look to be an option in U9.

**jeremyt** · 04-20-2011, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off

Shield blocking plus intim doesn't look to be an option in U9.

yeah looks like the mastery feats are giving a static damage reduction though. while the intim works differently altogether. not sure if its not an option, so much as a different option. While the dwarf route looked neat, im hedging towards the 14 bard 6 fighter h-orc or the 18 bard 1 fighter 1 barb horc thus far

**phalaeo** · 04-20-2011, 07:23 AM

Have fun TR'ing your Bard!

**jeremyt** · 04-20-2011, 08:00 AM

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Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Female
(6 Fighter \ 14 Bard) 
Hit Points: 458
Spell Points: 421 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 11
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    31
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             12                    14

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance              -1                     0
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         3                     5
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                1                     2
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            1                     7
Jump                  5                    10
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  5                    10
Tumble               n/a                    n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Bard)


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Kensei Greatsword Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery I
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

Str:
20 start + 5 level ups + 6 ench +2 horc enh +2 fighter enh + 3 exc + 2 tome + 2 ship buff = 42. +2 rage +2 yugo + 2-4 madstone = 48-50 + 2 horc hurtsies +6 titan grip = 56-58

Dam:
5d6 +10 eSoS +4 horc enh +2 weap spec feat + 2 kensei mastery + 12 power attack + 36 burst str +9 song + 4 claw + 2 shintao +2 FB
= 5d6 + 83
= 88 - 113
Minus madstone and titan grip for sustained = 84 - 109
Crit modifiers:
6 seeker item +4 kensei
= 5d6 + 93 15-20/ x3
= 294 - 369 crits

HP:
458 + 60 con item + 20 Exc con + 20 toughness + 10 agro favor + 40 SFL + 45 GS item = 633 unbuffed.
+ 20 rage + 20 ship = 673 + 40-80 madstone =713-753 (dont worry, i only took toughness six times)

**elujin** · 04-20-2011, 08:09 AM

i woudn't go under 12 cha but thats just me

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barb lev instead of rogue

barb lev, and no SP healing capacity

Dwarf greataxe slinger or d-axe + shield intim

horc 14 bard 6 fighter

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