Best I can make for now.

[Marten]

Without the GEOB shard in, I did finally manage to make +4 Holy of GLOB and I have to admit that I am looking forward to being able to make these live as I was mowing down stuff faster than ever.

[Xenus_Paradox]

I see your Holy of GLOB and raise you a Banishing of GLOB on a capstone pally...

[porq]

So how about banishing wraps of GLOB, can we make those?

[ImFour20]

will it be possible to make +5 versions of these handwraps, or will that raise the ML too high?

[Nailog]

will it be possible to make +5 versions of these handwraps, or will that raise the ML too high?

Considering the picture says ML:19 ...


By the way, how many total TP did it cost you to finally get to a proper crafting level to make those with a good chance of success?

[ImFour20]

Considering the picture says ML:19 ...


By the way, how many total TP did it cost you to finally get to a proper crafting level to make those with a good chance of success?

considering you could have said yes or no. . .how am i to know that going from +4 to +5 will raise it higher than 20(wraps have different rules when it comes to metal and ML anyway)

in any case, excuse me for not memorizing the loot table and asking a question

[Nailog]

considering you could have said yes or no. . .how am i to know that going from +4 to +5 will raise it higher than 20(wraps have different rules when it comes to metal and ML anyway)

in any case, excuse me for not memorizing the loot table and asking a question

My apologies. I thought that maybe you just didn't see the ML on the item. In most cases, an increment of +1 in abilities (+1 enhancement, +2 on skills, etc) means a +2 to ML. Now, if we could make the item have a racial requirement, it could conceivably get a -2 to its ML and thus allow another +1 in abilities to push it back up to ML:19. But I don't think we'll ever be allowed to do that.

[kyleann]

excuse me for not memorizing the loot table and asking a question

You're not excused.

It's part of the forum rules...I believe it's section 108.4(b) that clearly states "Any and all members of said forum shall hereby memorize, recite, understand, speak fluently in six languages, and regularly burst out in random sing-song format, the full and complete Turbine DDO Loot Tables."

Also, referring to Section 259.41(c)(i), "Asking of any questions on any forum will result in immediate trolling, drama, sarcasm, miscellaneous off-topic rants, useless insanity, more sarcasm, and is likely to cause hemorrhoids and/or explosive diarrhea of both the mouth and not the mouth."

Knowledge is power. Carry-on.

[ImFour20]

My apologies. I thought that maybe you just didn't see the ML on the item. In most cases, an increment of +1 in abilities (+1 enhancement, +2 on skills, etc) means a +2 to ML. Now, if we could make the item have a racial requirement, it could conceivably get a -2 to its ML and thus allow another +1 in abilities to push it back up to ML:19. But I don't think we'll ever be allowed to do that.

thanks. good to know

[Shade]

So how about banishing wraps of GLOB, can we make those?

nope. Banishing doesn't exist in the crafting list.

Thats likely as good as it gets for devil dps..
As the equivalent with holy burst, would have to be a +2, and thus a loss of dps, for most builds.

At least until we see what those "high lvl ingredients" are for.

[Junts]

nope. Banishing doesn't exist in the crafting list.

Thats likely as good as it gets for devil dps..
As the equivalent with holy burst, would have to be a +2, and thus a loss of dps, for most builds.

At least until we see what those "high lvl ingredients" are for.

With another 25 crafting levels, we've got a good shot to see them at some point

[AMDarkwolf]

So how about banishing wraps of GLOB, can we make those?

Holy being +2 and banishing being +5.

To make them banishing u would have to lower the + down to +1, so it would(IF possible) be +1 banishing of GLOB.

i believe this would in the end be a lower dps alternative, with the possibility to instakill.(2d6 holy +3, vs 3d6 from banish?)

The Banish of GLOB would be my choice personally just for that small 'vorpal' chance for extra damage.

[Marten]

Sorry it took so long to reply, I have the children this weekend, 6 and 4, and we watched Stephen Hawking's Universe: Into the Universe. Explaining to my 6 year old how stars are "born" and how we are all made of star dust was the most epic and rewarding thing I have done this year and to boot as I was tucking them into bed they made me promise to watch it with them again tomorrow! Good thing too, raining here all weekend I will have to miss Thoon's event so someone will have to post some SS for me later

A really short demo of them being used, here. (just 33 secs)

I see your Holy of GLOB and raise you a Banishing of GLOB on a capstone pally...

Currently banishing, smiting, and disruption are not in the list for craftable items, however if that changes I will do my best to show off a pair of Bannishing GLOBs

will it be possible to make +5 versions of these handwraps, or will that raise the ML too high?

A +4 shard is ML 8(7) and a +5 shard is ML 10(9) so it would make this item ML 21 currently.

The breakdown of this weapon is as follows (red number is used), +4 8(7), Holy 4(3), GLOB 8(7). The (#) is used if the item currently has no ML so once you place your first shard the larger # is used.

So, while there may be a way in the future to squeeze out one more ML, there isn't a way that I know of currently.

Considering the picture says ML:19 ...


By the way, how many total TP did it cost you to finally get to a proper crafting level to make those with a good chance of success?

I deconstructed more than 800 weapons (from transferring 6 weapon mules) and spent 8.4 mil plat on AH, had to dupe my collectibles bag 3 times and use approximatively 15K TP buying 15% success hammers, 15 min 25% exp pots and in the tens of thousands of essences to get to:



You need that much Arcane/Divine to have a 50% chance at the shards used here. Truly, to get to this level on live is going to be a huge undertaking or make Turbine very rich (not that I have an issue with profit, keeps the servers running)

I will check in again tomorrow as the children allow it, g'nite!

[Junts]

Holy being +2 and banishing being +5.

To make them banishing u would have to lower the + down to +1, so it would(IF possible) be +1 banishing of GLOB.

i believe this would in the end be a lower dps alternative, with the possibility to instakill.(2d6 holy +3, vs 3d6 from banish?)

The Banish of GLOB would be my choice personally just for that small 'vorpal' chance for extra damage.

the banish is 4d6 so a +1 banish/greater bane would, for a paladin, outperform the best crafted alternative.

however, that weapon can only be a rapier, so the edge bcomes extremely small.

Banishing cant be placed on slashing weapons.

[NaturalHazard]

the banish is 4d6 so a +1 banish/greater bane would, for a paladin, outperform the best crafted alternative.

however, that weapon can only be a rapier, so the edge bcomes extremely small.

Banishing cant be placed on slashing weapons.

good for drow paladins then? and rapier using elf paladins if there are any?

[Lyetisha]

@Marten: Yah your numbers of items and plat are what I was afraid of hearing. =) I've just been spending my 2k Free TP per day on materials for the last couple of weeks just to get up to Elemental 58. =P

[Beldain]

Numbers and plat are right about on target.... 2k TP per day here, over a mil plat, plus lots of stockpiled gear deconstructed... at 63/53/43 here, 36k crafting experience.

[Egeus]

Quick, crunch the numbers! Do monks now out-DPS Barbarians?? Time for a ner- er, update!!

[Tom_Hunters]

a quick question
will we be able to make +3 Holy Burst Silver XXX with GEOB? (coz i have a +1 of it with ML14)
what is the required level for such a weapon, and how long shall i expect myself to be able to make one?

[Marten]

Quick, crunch the numbers! Do monks now out-DPS Barbarians?? Time for a ner- er, update!!

My monk build, here, is about as close as a pure DPS based monk as I can image to build. Even before the stunning changes I decided to focus on To Hit and Damage. All gear being equal, a monk will never match the pure DPS of barbs. I could already out dps average to good geared barbs vs most tainted and some undead. The new crafted items and the change to disruption, ie Epic Wraps of Endless Light, I still will but even with these I will never out DPS epic build pure barb as long as we are both alive and swinging... One well built and well equipped monk can almost always pull off the impossible, I know I try every chance I get and succeed more often than not. Like this Abbot run, but I made two noobish mistakes or it would have ended differently.

The new craftables will help, however f you want to set your monk's goals high then trying to out DPS a barb is about as high as you can hope to set them, just don't /ragequit when you are grouped with the best of the best.

a quick question
will we be able to make +3 Holy Burst Silver XXX with GEOB? (coz i have a +1 of it with ML14)
what is the required level for such a weapon, and how long shall i expect myself to be able to make one?

+3 is a 6(5), Holy Burst is an 8(7) and any Greater Banes is 8(7) so 5+8+8 = 21, so that is no. Better to give up the burst dmg for a higher + and stick with +4 holy of GB which I showed above is a ML 19.