Completionist love devs?

[Cetus]

Been asking for this for a long time now, but can you guys free the feat up for us already? It seems to blatantly absurd to have to buy the thing after all the work. I also recently acquired a +4 str tome, and the pressure about thinking about eating it or not is just unnecessary.

[Quarterling]

Don't forget that once Druids come out, you will be short a feat unless you decide to pay Turbine Points for a feat exchange (or use that free one that everybody gets by doing the dragonmark quest).

[Matuse]

Yes, I'm like 4 years minimum away from completionist, but the feat should definitely be auto. Cut Star a break.

[psymun]

Been asking for this for a long time now, but can you guys free the feat up for us already? It seems to blatantly absurd to have to buy the thing after all the work. I also recently acquired a +4 str tome, and the pressure about thinking about eating it or not is just unnecessary.

We actually just had a thread going about this...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=310725

It really would be nice!

[Saravis]

What I don't get is why they don't have both a purchasable and free feat, like they have with every other "past life".

Free Feat - Past Life: Completionist
Purchasable - Past Life: Master of All that is DDO

[Cetus]

We actually just had a thread going about this...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=310725

It really would be nice!

Yea, I had 2 threads started myself ite midst of many others. NONE of which had any "read by a dev" comment or even acknowledgement.

The devs don't seem to care about anything dealing with completionists it seems. Been wishing to be proved wrong for a while now...

[Velexia]

What I don't get is why they don't have both a purchasable and free feat, like they have with every other "past life".

Free Feat - Past Life: Completionist
Purchasable - Past Life: I wasted a feat and all I got was this stupid T-shirt.

Fixed. The real reason to not go for completionist is that every time a new class comes out, you lose every single tome that you once thought was safe to eat... and for what, +2 to every stat? Whoopty-f'in-do.

If I put that much effort into a single character, I expect to be able to completely reconfigure my character every 3 days. That means every 3 days I can change every class level, my alignment, race, everything. After all, I won DDO, didn't I? ...and when a new Class comes out, I get a grace period where I can freely TR to the new class and start regaining my status, all without EVER losing a single tome that's been used. After all, we don't actually eat them anymore.

[Wizzly_Bear]

I disagree that the feat should be free in it's current form. As is, it's a every spell focus, weapon focus, and skill focus wrapped into a single feat, +1 damage and ac, +(level) hps, etc. I could probably support it being free if the bonuses were cut in half though.

[efreet5]

I disagree that the feat should be free in it's current form. As is, it's a every spell focus, weapon focus, and skill focus wrapped into a single feat, +1 damage and ac, +(level) hps, etc. I could probably support it being free if the bonuses were cut in half though.

Yeah, because we can't have people running around with overpowered toons after TRing 13 times now can we?

[SableShadow]

Fixed. The real reason to not go for completionist is that every time a new class comes out, you lose every single tome that you once thought was safe to eat... and for what, +2 to every stat? Whoopty-f'in-do.

Just change TR so you get your tome bonus back when you recap 20. Now there's still motivation to buy store tomes (mentioning this since that argument came up the last time this was suggested) and there's more incentive to TR even if you've eaten +3 or better tomes.

[Lithic]

Well at least crafting exp doesnt reset through a TR... though I hear that might be changed later.

[Cetus]

I disagree that the feat should be free in it's current form. As is, it's a every spell focus, weapon focus, and skill focus wrapped into a single feat, +1 damage and ac, +(level) hps, etc. I could probably support it being free if the bonuses were cut in half though.

Wrapped into a single feat? You make it seem like you can roll up a character and just go "Hey!, I think ill just take this one!"

You get the same "+1 damage" as you called it from doing a single monk life, or +1 dc doing a single wiz life. Tring 10 more times doesn't warrant getting another bit of benefit you don't think?

Think about the feat starved classes that can barely fit their own requirements in, why should they be stripped the chance of utilizing the completionist feat effectively if they wanted to power up their characters a bit more by tring 12 times?

[Wizzly_Bear]

Durnak, I wasn't referring to the passive feats (which are substantial as well). I was referring to the Completionist feat itself. +2 to all skills + +2 to all abilities is functionally equivalent to getting every weapon focus, dodge, toughness, every spell focus, every skill focus, and luck of heroes, + +1 damage. That ONE feat is functionally equivalent to the combined effects of >25 feats. I will never condone it being free. Honestly, I don't think it should even exist. When one option is so much more powerful than any other option, that is the definition of over-powered. What one other feat can even hope to match it?

[Asketes]

I disagree that the feat should be free in it's current form. As is, it's a every spell focus, weapon focus, and skill focus wrapped into a single feat, +1 damage and ac, +(level) hps, etc. I could probably support it being free if the bonuses were cut in half though.

but not any random person can just up and take the Completionist feat.

this should be free, it's been earned! (and will be taken away when new classes are released, which will probably mean at least 2 more trs, 1 to do the new class and 1 to get back to the class you want to end as)

[Wizzly_Bear]

I understand the reasoning and desire. I just don't agree with it. It shouldn't even exist in my opinion, let alone be an automatically granted feat. Fwiw, ymmv, etc.

[Asketes]

I understand the reasoning and desire. I just don't agree with it. It shouldn't even exist in my opinion, let alone be an automatically granted feat. Fwiw, ymmv, etc.

remember friend, this is only dnd themed

Plenty of other things you could take issue with :P

[Wizzly_Bear]

Some thoughts...

-in 5 years we have seen the addition of only 2 classes.

-what about passive "free" for half, and selectable other half as a sort of compromise?
---for example, you are eligible to take the Completionist feat but don't want to use a slot on it and so benefit from +1 to all abilities and skills. Your buddy Joe reworks his build to fit the full feat in and gets the +2 to all (current version).

[Wizzly_Bear]

remember friend, this is only dnd themed

Plenty of other things you could take issue with :P

Yes, I know. But even in DDO, to me it is incredibly over-powered.

[Asketes]

Yes, I know. But even in DDO, to me it is incredibly over-powered.

just wait till you can buy it in the store

POOF I've given you the power of foresight!

[Memnir]

I'd be perfectly fine if Completionist were a free Feat.
And I say that as someone who will never, ever become one.

In my questionably humble opinion - they put in the time and effort, give them the fan-service they deserve.