Please add curse and contagion as Pale Master SLA's in U9

[Cadveen]

Adding curse and contagion as PM SLA's will fix the crowded level four issue, and will give debuffs to their spells inwhich require fortitude saves. This will allow pale masters to utilize more necro and leave the enchanting to the am's. PM's would also appreciate useful spells for decreased cost liek all of the other pre's get. The necro blast and bolts are nice solo, but are less desireable when in groups do the low damage output. I do not believe these even get increased damage when the monster is held? I tested this a few times on lamannia and never noticed a difference.

[Scraap]

Or, they could attach a rider to the damage based on form, so that more than monk PMs see a benefit there, and amp the skeleton damage (even if that would mean gutting their survivability, or even leashing them to the creation point so you have to keep making the things) so that the APs spent are worth it.

Edit - now for AM's...

[LeLoric]

Adding curse and contagion as PM SLA's will fix the crowded level four issue, and will give debuffs to their spells inwhich require fortitude saves. This will allow pale masters to utilize more necro and leave the enchanting to the am's. PM's would also appreciate useful spells for decreased cost liek all of the other pre's get. The necro blast and bolts are nice solo, but are less desireable when in groups do the low damage output. I do not believe these even get increased damage when the monster is held? I tested this a few times on lamannia and never noticed a difference.

I wouldn't be opposed to something that reduces the level 4 spell glut.

I'm not sure sla's are the key here but something could be done.

The fact that they put both negative energy burst and death aura in the same spell slot really handcuffs pale masters here not allowing them to take several of the other really good necromancy spells at this level.

Bestow Curse would be great as a necro based debuff. Fear has many really good situational uses. Contagion could be useful at times.

I am left as not being able to use these regularly though due to the necessity to also take firewall, fireshield and ddoor here. Firewall will probably be gone after update and just swapped in on undead quests. Scrolls can be used for fireshield but it's a pain. Ddoor is mainly a convienence that I've considered dropping however the expectation that you would have it hurts a bit.

[Templarion]

Wouldn't hurt anyone if making useless spell like contagion useful at least some point of the game.

/signed

[Tyrande]

/signed

Was thinking about Contagion, Bestow Curse and Fear too since they fit the Palemaster theme.

Alas, arcane level 4 was squeezed too much.

[Roziel_Longblade]

PM is pretty good in terms of PrE's. I don't see a reason to give it more.

[Cadveen]

Roziel, have you played a good portion of the update on Lamannia with your Pale Master?