Shadowbane Inquisitor Revisited

[Jonny_D]

TR from a Rogue: to Thief Acrobat/Knight of the Chalice
Goal of the build is to contribute to Raid DPS with the ability to Intim Trash Mobs on Epic/Raids as well as handle epic traps and be self sufficient for Solo fun . Strengths: Rogue Backstab DPS and Paladin Burst DPS, Decent Intim, Great AC for when Agro is pulled, Self Healing, High saves,and immune to everything but curse. Weaknesses Just under 500 HP , Unsure if 36 dex is enough for to hit on this dex build, not sure if even the superior AC of this build will hold up in Epics, it will own elite content

JonnyDrama
Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(6 Paladin \ 1 Monk \ 13 Rogue)
Hit Points: 483 = 378base +45GS +10 Drac +20 Toughness +30 GFL
Spell Points:Lots
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 25 +4 +2 = 33 unnbuffed
Reflex: 32 +4 +2 = 38 unbuffed
Will: 22 +4 +2 + 6 = 30 Unbuffed

Gear: Have/Optimal
Rapier1: GS Min2 Holy exp Wis+1, +2
Rapier2: GS Radience2 Holy Exp Dex+1 HA +4
Ring: Chattering
Ring: +6 Charisma Upgrade to Ring of Silver Concord (proof against poison)
Helm: Minos Legens UG 2 Helm of Mroranon (Resistance+4)
Bracers: Armor 8 UG2 Epic Jidz- Tet'ka (except Con +1) (Underwater Action)
Boots: +6 Dex boots UG2 Epic KD Boots (+6 dex)
Necklace: Stalwart Necklace (+6 con) UG2 Epic Hyena Claw Necklace (Wizardry 6)
Trinket: Head of Good Fortune
Belt: Belt of brute Strength
Goggles: GS +5 cha skills, +6 wisdom, Blindness/Disease Immunity+150 Sp
Cloak: Epic CLoak of Night
Gloves: Min2 HP +45
Armor: Icy Raiments

AC:
10 base
8 Bracers
4 Icy
4 Insight
2 Epic Cloakm of Night
1 Feat
3 Chattering Ring
6 Protection
1 Alchem
8 Wisdom
5 CE
13 Dex
2 Paladin Aura
67 unbuffed

+3Barks Pot
+4 Shield Wand
74 self buffed

+1 Haste
+2 Ranger Bark
+2 Reitation
+4 Bard
83 Raid buffed

+2 Showtime x5 @ 1min
+6 Impr Uncanny Dodge x8 @ 30 sec
91 Burst for 4 min/rest sustainable

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 14 16 +6 = 22
Dexterity 17 29 +6 +1 =36
Constitution 13 16 +7 +1 = 24
Intelligence 11 13
Wisdom 14 15 + 7 + 1 +1 = 24
Charisma 9 15 +7 = 22
Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
Feat/Enhancement
Modified Skills
Skills (Level 20)
Balance 26 +2H oGF = 28
Disable Device 25+ 4 +2 +4 GH +7tools +15 item +3 VB = 60
Intimidate 38 + 5 GS + 2 HoGF + 15item + 4 GH = 64
Move Silently 34 -13 chattering = 21
Open Lock 32 +7tools + 2HoGF + 15 Item +4 GH = 60
Search 31 + 2 HoGF +15 item +4 GH =52
Spot 35 +2HoGF +13Chatter +4 GH = 50
Use Magic Device 29 +2 command +2 HoGF +5 GS + 4GH =42

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Human Bonus) Skill Focus: Intimidate
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding

Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip

Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Grace
Feat: (Automatic) Lay on Hands

Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Health
Feat: (Automatic) Fear Immunity

Level 5 (Rogue)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion

Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Lesser Restoration
Spell (1): Lionheart
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Spell (1): Resistance
Spell (1): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (1): Virtue

Level 7 (Paladin)

Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Automatic) Remove Disease

Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense

Level 10 (Rogue)
Feat: (Automatic) Trapmaking
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge

Level 11 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Breezes
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Candles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Pebbles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Puddles
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike

Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 13 (Rogue)

Level 14 (Rogue)

Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Uncanny Dodge

Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX

Level 17 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion

Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 19 (Rogue)

Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat I
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Balance II
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate III
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate IV
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Improved Search II
Enhancement: Improved Search III
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

[Jonny_D]

Sweet this must be a perfect build with perfect gear set up!

[Winter_storm]

I would switch Dodge and TWF. It will be hard on you on the first levels with the TWF penalty and Dodge is going help later. The first levels are sneak and clobber. So more DPS in the beginning will be less of a headache. I'm guessing you know rogue evasion and monk ac doesn't work with medium or heavy armor, but mentioning it since I didn't see the armor item and it looks like a interesting build and would hate to have you find out this later. Also look into "Opportunist" for "Skill Mastery", but both are good rogue feats to take.

Sneak Attack and Intimidate don't help each each other. Sneak attack only happens when you don't have aggro and intimidate is to have aggro of the monsters.

I don't remember much about paladins really but I think you can go down on the wis to make up in con. Like 14 17 14 11 12 10 with human adaptability +1 and a +3 tome from the shroud it will make con of 16. just will need a +2 Wis item for the last two level paladin spells. Paladins only get four levels of spells from what I can remember.

Also look up Junts for Paladins, if you haven't already.

[Calebro]

Sweet this must be a perfect build with perfect gear set up!

No, it was just done better here and no one wants to say that.
I have a scimitar wielding halfling version that I'll be TR'ing to when I finish gearing him - which should be soon - but he's going KoTC/Assassin2.

[bandyman1]

I would switch Dodge and TWF. It will be hard on you on the first levels with the TWF penalty and Dodge is going help later. The first levels are sneak and clobber. So more DPS in the beginning will be less of a headache. I'm guessing you know rogue evasion and monk ac doesn't work with medium or heavy armor, but mentioning it since I didn't see the armor item and it looks like a interesting build and would hate to have you find out this later. Also look into "Opportunist" for "Skill Mastery", but both are good rogue feats to take.

Sneak Attack and Intimidate don't help each each other. Sneak attack only happens when you don't have aggro and intimidate is to have aggro of the monsters.

I don't remember much about paladins really but I think you can go down on the wis to make up in con. Like 14 17 14 11 12 10. just will need a +2 Wis item for the last two level paladin spells. Paladins only get four levels of spells from what I can remember.

Also look up Junts for Paladins, if you haven't already.

He's using armor 8 bracers.

The Wis isn't for his Paladin spells, it's for the monk AC bonus.


Looks good Jond. Tell everyone I said " Hi ". Miss you guys and gals .

[Winter_storm]

He's using armor 8 bracers.

The Wis isn't for his Paladin spells, it's for the monk AC bonus.


Looks good Jond. Tell everyone I said " Hi ". Miss you guys and gals .

Saw the +8 bracers but have seen melee builds not knowing the armor requirements.

Didn't know the wisdom part for monk. Sounds good....

[Jonny_D]

I would switch Dodge and TWF. It will be hard on you on the first levels with the TWF penalty and Dodge is going help later. The first levels are sneak and clobber. So more DPS in the beginning will be less of a headache. I'm guessing you know rogue evasion and monk ac doesn't work with medium or heavy armor, but mentioning it since I didn't see the armor item and it looks like a interesting build and would hate to have you find out this later. Also look into "Opportunist" for "Skill Mastery", but both are good rogue feats to take.

Sneak Attack and Intimidate don't help each each other. Sneak attack only happens when you don't have aggro and intimidate is to have aggro of the monsters.

I don't remember much about paladins really but I think you can go down on the wis to make up in con. Like 14 17 14 11 12 10 with human adaptability +1 and a +3 tome from the shroud it will make con of 16. just will need a +2 Wis item for the last two level paladin spells. Paladins only get four levels of spells from what I can remember.

Also look up Junts for Paladins, if you haven't already.

Saw the +8 bracers but have seen melee builds not knowing the armor requirements.

Didn't know the wisdom part for monk. Sounds good....

Using the Icy Raiments as Armor. As to leveling and feat selection, more than likely as I level up I will go with different points and feats and do + soft reincarnate to fix the stats and feats as i approach cap.

No, it was just done better here and no one wants to say that.
I have a scimitar wielding halfling version that I'll be TR'ing to when I finish gearing him - which should be soon - but he's going KoTC/Assassin2.

Hurt Locker is a good build, however it is a bit different from my goals, for 1 its WF based on DoD and where as mine is based on Icy Raiments. The trade of is I gain a much higher intimidate, higher AC, at the expense of some DPS and hate generation, also Hurt Locker cant do Epic traps which if your gonna sport the rogue icon and all the prejudice against that, it should be able to do epic

He's using armor 8 bracers.

The Wis isn't for his Paladin spells, it's for the monk AC bonus.


Looks good Jond. Tell everyone I said " Hi ". Miss you guys and gals .

Will do Bandy hope you and the fam are doing well Merry Christmas

[Calebro]

Hurt Locker is a good build, however it is a bit different from my goals, for 1 its WF based on DoD and where as mine is based on Icy Raiments. The trade of is I gain a much higher intimidate, higher AC, at the expense of some DPS and hate generation, also Hurt Locker cant do Epic traps which if your gonna sport the rogue icon and all the prejudice against that, it should be able to do epic

No arguments about the traps. My halfling version will be epic ready as well, but is strength based instead.
"At the expense of some DPS and hate generation" is a bit of an understatement though. Human dex based will drop your DPS considerably, especially in epics where everything is auto-crit. Not that I'm knocking the build.... just saying. This is primarily why I'll be going Assassin instead of Acrobat, for the extra sneak damage. I'll be ignoring Intimidate and not attempting to tank in exchange for more DPS.

One thing I noticed is your gear set-up, which is listed as Optimal is less than optimal. You missed Tharne's Goggles. They should be in your optimal set-up.

[Jonny_D]

No arguments about the traps. My halfling version will be epic ready as well, but is strength based instead.
"At the expense of some DPS and hate generation" is a bit of an understatement though. Human dex based will drop your DPS considerably, especially in epics where everything is auto-crit. Not that I'm knocking the build.... just saying. This is primarily why I'll be going Assassin instead of Acrobat, for the extra sneak damage. I'll be ignoring Intimidate and not attempting to tank in exchange for more DPS.

One thing I noticed is your gear set-up, which is listed as Optimal is less than optimal. You missed Tharne's Goggles. They should be in your optimal set-up.

granted I miss out on the +4 damage from ending at a 22 strength unbuffed but I can get every other strength buff offered and using a +3 tome I might be able to rework gear and stats to squeeze out an end point of 24 strength and then the difference is only +3 damage. And the Tharnes goggles are great and I would swap them with my Cha skill goggles as needed, thanks for pointing out the miss i can also swap HoGF for Bloodstone/Arrowhead

[Calebro]

granted I miss out on the +4 damage from ending at a 22

That +4 turns into +8 on a crit, and +12 on a crit DivSac* or a crit Smite, and this is a sneak-attack/crit driven build.
Like I said, it isn't going to break your build, but it isn't insignificant either. I've played both Str and Dex based rogues, both pure and multiclass, and you will definitely notice a difference going Str based. This build in particular would benefit more from a Str base because of the Pally abilities. But that's just my opinion.

* which should never be off timer, hoard the lowbie mana pots you find in the Harbor, ect, to power this indefinitely, and spam it like a fool. Even if it only gives you 15 sp, that's 15 more DiVSacs over a 45 second boss fight.

[Goob]

Would it be a possible option to take DoS instead of KotC? higher AC and str but might bring down your dps just a little.