[IDEA] New PRE auras for Sorc/Fav

[Wurmwood]

Palemaster currently has the option to cast an aura that does neg energy damage as a spell (which for a palemaster should just be a spell like toggle that they get at 18), so why not make something of the sort for savant pre's?
An idea that popped into mind was:

Earth savant at 20 gets a toggle "Cloudkill" aura with 1 min recast time for 4-6 enhancment points at lvl 20, having the aura lowers your con by 2, but gives you a +2 to conjuration

Fire savant at 20 gets a "Flame aura" toggle that has a chance to hit attackers (along the lines of flame elementals, but with much higher dc) lowers str by 2, but raises evocation +2 levels/enhancements) for 4-6 enhancment points at lvl 20

Water savant gets at 20 an "Ice guard" toggle that has a chance to freeze attackers when hit (something not lame, like a 10% chance or higher), with dc same as above. Could give -2 to str, but +2 to either evo whatever ice uses.

Air savant gets at 20 a lightning storm toggle (like the crappy half elf dragonmark), scales with level, and costs 5-10 sp every time it hits an enemy. no neg stat since it takes away mana. +1 to evo.

For Favoured something along the lines of a Lionheart effect toggle so when you hit, or are hit enemies cower in your presence and take -2 or more to attacks, rolls, skills, etc.

This is just an idea that was rolling around with those few marbles I got left. Yay or nay

[sephiroth1084]

Why?

[Henrieta]

Or have the aura do "elemental healing" to the sorc?

[Wurmwood]

to keep people quiet about the spell nerfs for one. Secondly it will make the pre lines more appealing to reach ala a full 20 sorc/favoured as opposed to multiclasses. You can still have fun with it, but new people will see the lvl 20 candy and reach for a pure 20.

[TreknaQudane]

Nay

[Jaid314]

to keep people quiet about the spell nerfs for one. Secondly it will make the pre lines more appealing to reach ala a full 20 sorc/favoured as opposed to multiclasses. You can still have fun with it, but new people will see the lvl 20 candy and reach for a pure 20.

favored soul already has a massive incentive to go to 20. DR and free spells = awesome.

sorcerer capstone is admittedly not as useful outside of a narrow situation as i might wish, but it is in fact quite good for what it does (i just wish there was a capstone for a sorcerer that didn't add only to nuking. a simple +2 cha added on would be extremely welcome!)

[Wurmwood]

Back to the drawing board I suppose :P

[Seikojin]

I was going to say, why not make them capstones that require the pre.

I think Henrieta's idea would be good to have on the pre as it stands. Instead of getting basic elemental resistance boosting, get elemental healing.

But I think all pre's should come with a capstone option.

[Arctigis]

Rather than the idea in the OP, I think replacing the curse with (Air Guard/Earth Grab Guard/Freezing Ice Guard/
Magma Surge Guard) might be more balanced. I've not played PnP since AD&D so my knowledge of what the PRE
provides in PNP is nil.

[Trillea]

I have been thinking about something like this:

Instead of having a possibly OP curse that a Savant has to reapply every so often with SP, they should have a lesser version of the curse that gets automatically applied every so often to anything in their field of vision with a range and width similar (if not a bit bigger than) a Cone of Cold. This would be similar to a gaze attack (in fact this could be called Icy Stare or something for the Ice Savant). It would tick about as often as a paladin aura, with each tick adding maybe a 5% increasing susceptibility to all targets in line of sight. The max damage multiplier would probably be capped at 50% since there is no SP investment instead of 75% as the current curses allow, but it would gather the damage more quickly and be more useful on general trash, while lowering the max DPS which may be a bit much on bosses.

Discuss please.

[Tyrande]

Rather than the idea in the OP, I think replacing the curse with (Air Guard/Earth Grab Guard/Freezing Ice Guard/
Magma Surge Guard) might be more balanced. I've not played PnP since AD&D so my knowledge of what the PRE
provides in PNP is nil.

Actually, I like this idea better since the code is already out there and more probably more balanced than the OP's.

FvS don't need any more incentive to get to 20 though.

[BananaHat]

I have been thinking about something like this:

Instead of having a possibly OP curse that a Savant has to reapply every so often with SP, they should have a lesser version of the curse that gets automatically applied every so often to anything in their field of vision with a range and width similar (if not a bit bigger than) a Cone of Cold. This would be similar to a gaze attack (in fact this could be called Icy Stare or something for the Ice Savant). It would tick about as often as a paladin aura, with each tick adding maybe a 5% increasing susceptibility to all targets in line of sight. The max damage multiplier would probably be capped at 50% since there is no SP investment instead of 75% as the current curses allow, but it would gather the damage more quickly and be more useful on general trash, while lowering the max DPS which may be a bit much on bosses.

Discuss please.

As long as earth savants get the medusa's stare, I'm all for it.