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    Default The Everything Bagel - Half-elf Warchanter

    A Half-Elf Kitchen Sink Build

    Keywords: THF, Half Elf, Dilletante Paladin, Evasion, Trapmonkey, Warchanter, Bard, Rogue, Fighter, UMD, 32 Pt.

    This build is not meant for pure DPS. If you want that, go make a fighter. This is for the guy (or gal) who likes to do everything. This is a true support toon. You get all the buffs of a warchanter, but do more than just sing, you can do some damage! No more piking bards! Also, you get the added benefit of truly useful trap skills (up to epic with gear), A useful perform skill for some minor CC and, a great reflex save with evasion for more survivability. Imagine this build self buffed with gear. I imagine it will be quite good for soloing, but it is designed for party support.

    Build Strategy

    DPS is an afterthought, this toon was made to buff, do traps, avoid dieing via evasion, act as an emergency wand/scroll healer, and THEN do some damage. Spot is not included, because it is an expensive luxury. If you really want me to build spot skill into the build, send me a PM and I will see what I can do, but that is an extra commitment in skill points I was not willing to make. Just use your face to find the trap!

    Possible Alterations

    Take force of personality at level 18 for a higher will save.
    Don't like the enhancements? I didn't put too much work in there, redo them and make them better if you want.
    Cleave is getting a makeover in U9, work your way to great cleave if you want.
    Take Skill Focus UMD for a retardedly high UMD check on a melee toon.
    Boost your devotion enhancements, get a little gear, add maximize and be a good secondary healer.




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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.8.2
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    Everything Bagel 
    Level 20 Neutral Good Half-Elf Male
    (2 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 16 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 300
    Spell Points: 560 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 14
    Reflex: 19
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
    Strength             14                 21                   23
    Dexterity             8                 10                   10
    Constitution         16                 18                   18
    Intelligence         16                 18                   18
    Wisdom                8                 10                   10
    Charisma             14                 16                   16
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
    Balance               3                 13                   13
    Bluff                 2                  3                    3
    Concentration         5                 27                   29
    Diplomacy             2                  3                    3
    Disable Device        7                 27                   28
    Haggle                6                  7                    7
    Heal                 -1                  0                    0
    Hide                  1                  2                    2
    Intimidate            2                  3                    7
    Jump                  6                 10                   10
    Listen               -1                  0                    0
    Move Silently         1                  2                    2
    Open Lock             3                 23                   23
    Perform               n/a               26                   27
    Repair                3                  4                    4
    Search                7                 27                   30
    Spot                  3                  4                    4
    Swim                  2                  6                    6
    Tumble                3                  4                    4
    Use Magic Device      6                 26                   26
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+4)
    Skill: Hide (+2)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Move Silently (+2)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Paladin
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
    Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
    Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
    
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+7)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
    Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Elven Perception I
    Enhancement: Elven Perception II
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
    Enhancement: Improved Perform I
    Enhancement: Improved Search I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+3)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante I
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+3)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1.5)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+3)
    Skill: Open Lock (+5)
    Skill: Search (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1.5)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante II
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1.5)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Greatness
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante III
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Song of Freedom
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Heroics
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
    Last edited by nerdychaz; 04-11-2011 at 06:22 AM.

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    Default hmmm

    i could be wrong, but i thought you needed at least 15 dex for twf??? 10 wont cut it m8.. FYI

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    Quote Originally Posted by xaadas View Post
    i could be wrong, but i thought you needed at least 15 dex for twf??? 10 wont cut it m8.. FYI
    Well even though he SAYS TWF if you look at his character planner he has the feats as THF. I'm guessing that was just a typo on his part.
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    Default

    Sorry about the typo, I normally do rogue builds, lol.

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    seems like burning a feat for Weapon Finesse would be a good idea instead of devoting so many stat points to Strength. Dex based attack bonus has nice synergy with the Rogue skills and with Sneak Attack damage bonuses you can rely on that for your melee dps source instead. WeapFinesse, a high crit weapon, and sneak attacks should do just fine for second string DPS.

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    I think you've spread yourself a little thin.

    If DPS is not a major part of your build, you may consider dropping THF feats. You don't get any benefit unless you are sitting still anyway, and if you are sitting still and you don't have anything else to do, you can also twitch to make up most of the dps.

    A wide variety of builds, including the Classic Rocker and the Soul Survivor (on the Favored Soul) side, have used this strategy and have worked out well. I've played both, and you don't miss the glancing blows dps all that much on a build like this. That will save you 3 feats, which allows you to drop the fighter levels to focus the character better, or take Toughness Feats or Healing feats instead.
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