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    Angry Re: LFM use/abuse

    Not sure if it is against the rules, but what is up lately with some of the guilds lately using the LFM to get a group together (i.e. saying private - so and so guild only)
    1. You are in a guild together
    2. you have guild chat that you can ask for people to run a quest with you (many guilds also have teamspeak or vent, so its even easier to ask your guildies to run quests)
    3. you have a guild roster that you can sort by who is online
    4. you can invite from the guild tab list
    5. I dont care how many people you have in your guild you can use the guild tab to organize your party

    If you want others to join in for the fun or horror once your guild members have joined you then by all means advertise to look for others to join a so-and-so guild run, but it makes you look stupid to put private on the LFM (especially when it doesnt fill after 30 min...hahahaha).

    This is not to be confused with someone who has a group up and they put - 1 or more spots saved for so-and-so. Most likely they got some tells and someone is switching, so I completely understand that. Also, don't confuse it with the LFM's that say that they are being picky, due to the nature of some quests I understand that not all characters are suited for the quest...myddo is our friend....

    OK, venting over. I hope that the LFM's on Sarlona will no longer have guild run only parties up, that is all.

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    Those are some good ones, but my favorite are the, "Need healers I'm not one" says the level 20 WF Favored Soul...

    /facepalm

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    Quote Originally Posted by bendover View Post
    Those are some good ones, but my favorite are the, "Need healers I'm not one" says the level 20 WF Favored Soul...

    /facepalm
    Lol, +1, there's many times I'll randomly put up, Bring your own dps, as myself being a lvl 20 ftr. Maybe bards should start hosting lfm's and put bring your own songs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bendover View Post
    Those are some good ones, but my favorite are the, "Need healers I'm not one" says the level 20 WF Favored Soul...

    /facepalm
    Does this actually happen??
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian14 View Post
    Does this actually happen??
    Unfortunately yes, very often. There are I believe three WF Lord of the Blade FvS's that put up these types of LFM's on Sarlona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RG_Arlyn View Post
    Not sure if it is against the rules, but what is up lately with some of the guilds lately using the LFM to get a group together (i.e. saying private - so and so guild only)
    1. You are in a guild together
    2. you have guild chat that you can ask for people to run a quest with you (many guilds also have teamspeak or vent, so its even easier to ask your guildies to run quests)
    3. you have a guild roster that you can sort by who is online
    4. you can invite from the guild tab list
    5. I dont care how many people you have in your guild you can use the guild tab to organize your party

    If you want others to join in for the fun or horror once your guild members have joined you then by all means advertise to look for others to join a so-and-so guild run, but it makes you look stupid to put private on the LFM (especially when it doesnt fill after 30 min...hahahaha).

    This is not to be confused with someone who has a group up and they put - 1 or more spots saved for so-and-so. Most likely they got some tells and someone is switching, so I completely understand that. Also, don't confuse it with the LFM's that say that they are being picky, due to the nature of some quests I understand that not all characters are suited for the quest...myddo is our friend....

    OK, venting over. I hope that the LFM's on Sarlona will no longer have guild run only parties up, that is all.

    That last part about Myddo says a lot. A good player or 2 can carry the rest through just about any quest in game. Ever join a zerg/first to click gets in shroud? lol. Myddo is a useless tool that is rarely updated. I mean my guilds list still has players that aren't int he guild anymore, they haven't even logged into the game for almost 2 years now. But go ahead and rely on myddo to pick your parties.

    Back to topic. I have used the lfm this way in the past and to me it's just easier to start an lfm as private. Reasons: a lot of our "guild" only runs also include friends NOT guilded. Hence, they can click the lfm to join. Some guild have ppl who log in and look at lfm first thing, oh, my guilds running an event, sure I'll come. There's many reasons for "private"/"guild only" to be on the lfm. You should find out more before venting :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixenuup View Post
    But go ahead and rely on myddo to pick your parties.

    Back to topic. I have used the lfm this way in the past and to me it's just easier to start an lfm as private. Reasons: a lot of our "guild" only runs also include friends NOT guilded. Hence, they can click the lfm to join. Some guild have ppl who log in and look at lfm first thing, oh, my guilds running an event, sure I'll come. There's many reasons for "private"/"guild only" to be on the lfm. You should find out more before venting :P
    I personally have never used myddo to fill parties, and if I'm running a group and have an LFM up it's because I'm willing to take and "carry" others through. I know that myddo has its problems and may not be updated that's why I dont use it, but I dont blame others for checking first especially when running epics.

    I did specify that if, as a guild, you wanted others to join a guild run of...insert quest name.... by so-and-so is fine...but a guild only private run I think is inappropriate use of the LFM

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    do the extra pixels ruin your day.
    Maybe they dont want to sift thru the 30 odd people they have online in random groups of 2-6 in random areas, and can just have everyone click the lfm when they are ready for the invite.

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    My biggest beef, is the LFMs that are up for days...

    LFMs are like erections, if they are up more than 4 hours, there is a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symera View Post
    My biggest beef, is the LFMs that are up for days...

    LFMs are like erections, if they are up more than 4 hours, there is a problem.

    But those make for the best of parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symera View Post
    My biggest beef, is the LFMs that are up for days...

    LFMs are like erections, if they are up more than 4 hours, there is a problem.
    But you just have to give them props for their stick- to- it- ness... I give up on LFM's after 15 minutes and start... Or 30 minutes if a raid... I don't want to be just sittin at a keyboard for half the night... waiting for people to join.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symera View Post
    My biggest beef, is the LFMs that are up for days...

    LFMs are like erections, if they are up more than 4 hours, there is a problem.
    This has got to be post of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symera View Post
    My biggest beef, is the LFMs that are up for days...

    LFMs are like erections, if they are up more than 4 hours, there is a problem.
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    I see these all the time, and have delt with them for years... I'd rather see that then have the LFM say nothing... Which is what would happen. It's no biggie in my book... I'd rather see this than LFM's that are bashing others, selling thing, guild recruiting or one of the many other LFMs that aren't really looking to run a quest.
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    Personally I find it annoying as well, but at least they're using it to form a group. I believe this topic came up way back, and that the end result was that it wasn't going to get you in trouble unless you specify who is NOT allowed.

    Edit: to clarify, from what I can recall you can put things like "no pikers", but not something like "Arlyn is a piker".
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    Quote Originally Posted by RG_Arlyn View Post
    Not sure if it is against the rules, but what is up lately with some of the guilds lately using the LFM to get a group together (i.e. saying private - so and so guild only)
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    This does not violate the rules, they are using the grouping tab to...GROUP.

    They may be doing this because they are picking up people in channels, people may be switching to out of guild characters, or it could be to more easily coordinate two groups (DQ)


    Quote Originally Posted by bendover View Post
    Those are some good ones, but my favorite are the, "Need healers I'm not one" says the level 20 WF Favored Soul...

    /facepalm
    What's wrong with this? He doesn't want to heal, he doesn't have to. His group. If he's saying that, he prob has a build that you don't want him healing on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien_the_First_One View Post
    This does not violate the rules, they are using the grouping tab to...GROUP.

    They may be doing this because they are picking up people in channels, people may be switching to out of guild characters, or it could be to more easily coordinate two groups (DQ)




    What's wrong with this? He doesn't want to heal, he doesn't have to. His group. If he's saying that, he prob has a build that you don't want him healing on.
    Why bash LFM's?

    They are probably one of the funnest things to watch for in the game!

    So they're stupid, lame, ofensive, silly, elitist or paranoid (like mine).

    We don't need an LFM police (except for traders maybe) - lets let them be "creative" and entertain us.

    Whaddya say?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien_the_First_One View Post


    What's wrong with this? He doesn't want to heal, he doesn't have to. His group. If he's saying that, he prob has a build that you don't want him healing on.

    Sure he doesn't have to heal, but then again it's his reputation and not mine. But let's get real for a second and why would a 20 WF FvS hosting a shroud lfm choose not to heal and wait for one, or possibly two more healers when he is more then capable of solo healing.

    You and I both know that doesn't make sense, because if he thinks he's solely DPS he's a fail. No competent player is going to host an lfm with that type of heading. I wouldn't host a shroud on my pure 20 Bard and say, "I'm not going to play songs, will need another Bard". That's ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bendover View Post
    Sure he doesn't have to heal, but then again it's his reputation and not mine. But let's get real for a second and why would a 20 WF FvS hosting a shroud lfm choose not to heal and wait for one, or possibly two more healers when he is more then capable of solo healing.

    You and I both know that doesn't make sense, because if he thinks he's solely DPS he's a fail. No competent player is going to host an lfm with that type of heading. I wouldn't host a shroud on my pure 20 Bard and say, "I'm not going to play songs, will need another Bard". That's ridiculous.
    So you are saying there is no way to build a FVS that would make it a sub par healer at best? Now I have no problem solo healing a shroud... but if I was grouping with this guy I would at least like a heads up that I am doing that... seems to me his LFM would tell me that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catiriona View Post
    So you are saying there is no way to build a FVS that would make it a sub par healer at best? Now I have no problem solo healing a shroud... but if I was grouping with this guy I would at least like a heads up that I am doing that... seems to me his LFM would tell me that.

    I think you're missing my point. Why would you wait for someone to do something that you could already do? I never said one thing about building a FVS any particular way, but if a pure 20 FVS won't heal because he says he's "DPS" that's just a fail player.

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