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    Default Ultimate Epic savant sorcerer gear

    Been thinking about this and seems a bit more complex then it used to be now.

    Mainly because I want to hold my epic staff of arcane power for +2 CL on the couple uncapped spells out there in update9, while maintaining appropriate major lores. No easy for an earth savant sinces there no good named loot with major acid lore..

    Also heard the abishai set bonus stacks with the epic staff, tho not sure on that.. and since its just evocation spells, not sure it matters since the better earth ones are conjuration or necromancy.. Tho id probably want to fit it either way for the xtra stats.

    So onto the gear (Build: Human lvl20 Sorc, Earth savant, full conjuration spec):

    Weapon: Epic Staff of Arcane power
    Robe: Epic Robe of Diabloist (+3 conjuration)
    Helm: Epic helm of Frost (cha +7. yellow slot ?)
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed (con +7, green slot : ? probably hvy fort or gfl)
    Boots: Boots of Corrosion (some ****, and green slot: ?)
    Belt: Epic Lionheaded belt buckle (str +6, con+6, wis +6, dex +6)
    Bracers: concordant op, umd +2 and umd +3
    Ring1: Thamors (earth savant, Con +1, con +2)
    Ring2: Siberys (Cha +1, Cha +2)
    Trinket: mm no litany yet, so probably t3 spyglass. Got a greenslot there too to play with.

    That only leaves 2 spots for lore..
    Either gloves or googles
    Googles right now is HP +45, Concentration +10 and exceptional +3.. Alreayd cleansed so kinda want to keep it.. Not sure where else I can fit concentration, and its not a stat that can be skipped. Too bad epic crafting doesnt let you add skills.
    Gloves right now is glacial

    So I guess maybe recraft googles into 25 hp + major acid lore?
    or make a third GS in gloves? (I do have more essences rdy)

    Or I can just forget the staff and make up some kinda crafted major acid lore dagger to combine with ornameted dagger..

    PS: Yea I have almost all of this gear already, just short a couple scrolls on the abishai stuff.

    Belt:
    ofcourse now epic lionheaded belt is pretty sick.. (very high chance at -2 saves when thigns hit you, and +6 str +6 con, and 2 slots for other +6s)
    But might need to be lost if the earth savant set bonus works or is any good. (sposed to be max CL +3 on earth spells, so not sure) too bad the thamors belt otherwise sucks. (mm actually thinking about it, its +.5 multi on acid, so if I go with ornated16 + greenblade, that would cover every lore)

    Tough setup... Any thoughts?
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    Why not go with the entire epic abishi set?

    Skiver in one hand, epic event dagger in other with about 10 of the t1 epic event daggers in your bag?

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    You're pretty close to my setup Shade, which tells me i'm on the good way ^^

    Mines more like this though:

    Weapon: Epic Staff of Inner sight / Staff of the petitionner
    Robe: Epic Cavalry plate* (Demon consort, SFL, blue slot: -15% ASF)
    Goggles: Triple positives: + 150 SP (300), Raise Dead clicky.
    Helm: Epic helm of Frost (cha +7. yellow slot : Disease immunity**)
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed (con +7, green slot : toughness)
    Boots: Boots of Corrosion (Colorless: No clue, and green slot: No clue)
    Belt: Thamor's belt
    Bracers: Min II : 45 Hp, HF, prot +5
    Gloves: Viles blasphemy : (clicky + umd) / Gloves of the Glacier
    Ring1: Thamors (earth savant, Con +1, cha +2)
    Ring2: Gnawed (str +6, Con +1, Con +2)***
    Trinket: Litany of the Dead / Plated earslug (aka.: Xachosian Eardweller)

    *(Drow so - 10% ASF)
    ** I'm lazy for earslug :P
    *** Yeah I know, 2x Con +1. I'm actually hoping that Turbine fix the ''We make perfect rings for Wizard, not for sorcerers'' and make the savants ring ''Cha +1''

    Final thoughts :

    1. Goggles can be replaced with a Conc opp : would give me a +6 Wisdom and SP potential.
    2. I'll probably have to rework my rings with u9.
    3. I'm missing a Cha +1, Could be fitted in boots, but meh. See thought #2 ^^
    4. I know I'm missing a +1 Conjuration DC from my Epic Robe of the Diabolist, but I get much more passive by wearing the Epic Cavalry plate on a drow. Although I must use AP to make up for the ASF, i'm fine with that.

    Thats my suggestion on your gear, in your case:

    Weapon: Epic Staff of Arcane power / Staff of inner sight / Staff of the petitionner
    Robe: Epic Robe of Diabloist (+3 conjuration) (Colorless : ?, Blue slot : HF)
    Goggles: Min II (+45Hp, +10 Concentration)
    Helm: Epic helm of Frost (cha +7. yellow slot : Disease immunity)
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed (con +7, green slot : GFL)
    Boots: Boots of Corrosion (some ****, and green slot: Toughness)
    Belt: Epic Lionheaded belt buckle (str +6, con+6, wis +6, dex +6) => Thamor's belt (if fixed)
    Bracers: concordant op, umd +2 and umd +3
    Ring1: Thamors (earth savant, Con +1, con +2)
    Ring2: Siberys (Cha +1, Cha +2)
    Trinket: T3 spyglass / Xachosian eardweller.

    With your stuff that would be my setup. Not changing much, since you're human you can't go with the Epic Cavalry plate. Although the Lionheaded belt is a nice consiladation item, I'd prefer the 0.5 over some +6 to stats that I wont get ''real'' bonuses from. Anyway, thoses colorless gotta have some use anyway
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    Yea I gues I could sacrifice the lionhead belt.. Since I can get the +6 stats in other slots.. Just will miss the "shaken" proc.

    So would be:
    Weapon: Epic Staff of Arcane power/Greenblade+Ornamented ml16
    Robe: Epic Robe of Diabloist (+3 conjuration)
    Helm: Epic helm of Frost (cha +7. yellow slot: Dex 6)
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed (con +7, green slot : probably hvy fort)
    Boots: Boots of Corrosion (some ****, and green slot: GFL, colorless: X)
    Belt: Thamors (+3 CL on earth spell + 0.5 acid mult)
    Bracers: Concordant op, umd +2 and umd +3
    Google: hp +45, concetration +13
    Gloves: Glacial (-4 sp max, -2 sp extend)
    Necklace: Swappable.. Shintao for +15 concentration, or torc for sp (nearly got epic torc too, need scroll)
    Ring1: Thamors (earth savant, Con +1, con +2)
    Ring2: Siberys (Str +6, Cha +1, Cha +2) (Actually this is kinda **** now since I can probalby fit the +1 cha into a slot somewhere.. Then replace this with Shintao ring to go with the neck maybe, tho id need str +6 somewhere too.)
    Trinket: mm no litany yet, so probably t3 spyglass. Got a greenslot there too to play with (prolly goodluck +2). (and yea got eardweller for clicky too)

    Why not 5 piece abishai set:
    need bracer: Well id lose a ton of spell points - No GS item in bracers : -300, no concordant op. Lose umd too and fail heal scrolls..
    Then gloves: -4 sp on max, -2 sp on extend..
    for the sake of:
    +3 dc on cojuration? Doesnt stack with robe I already have.
    +3 con? mm good but not worth it.

    Total stats that setup would give me (assuming bugs are fixed and things stack up nicely):

    +6 to all stats, except con and cha which are +10 total.
    Very solid concentration, so no need for quicken

    CL31 (26 base + 3 earth set, +2 staff) on:
    Stoneskin
    Flesh to stone
    Burning Blood
    Maximum CL on rest of earth stuff (some cap around 20ish, so ~26 after cap increases)

    Evocation spells:
    Should be CL25 on polar ray, even without being a water savant (3 abisha set, 2 from staff.. tho i'd need to find some way to fit a major lore or settle for cl23 + lore)

    DCs:
    Ultra high conjuration (potential around 45+)
    Solid evocation (ill have at least +1 from pastlife sorc)
    Decent necromancy (eh, got abbot staff at least)
    Decent other stuff (can probably get staff of inner sight, or use other greater focuses when needed)

    Damage:
    Max for acid except
    I'd still have to lose 4% crits due to the stupid earth savant set being only 5%.
    Guess I could cleanse my 2nd GS item ,and set up a third:
    Gloves:
    X + X + Major acid lore.
    Maybe acid resist 35 + lore = earthgrab
    Setting my total acid resist to:
    50 undispellable

    HP on the build should be a good 460+ without wasting a feat on toughness.
    Too bad no healing amp gear in there.. Could probably fit some human enhancement tho.
    With 310 point stoneskin, may be enough to tank select raid bosses... I'd certainly have to given the spell threat i'd generate.
    Last edited by Shade; 04-07-2011 at 10:55 PM.

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    Two more suggestion that might fit into your kind of play Shade:

    - Noxious amber : Although you do lose the set bonus of Shintao and the +2 concentration comming from the neck (over your bracers). I, for myself, would rather get 4% more crit chance.
    - Your Epic Robe of the diabolist has a Colorless slot and a Blue slot.
    Colorless slot: +6 STR (replacing the lost bonus from shintao)
    Blue slot: I'd go with Heavy Fort in that and in the Green slot from your cloak put a Toughness: ~480hp without taking the toughness feat.


    So, my idea of your final setup for your toon:

    Setup 1:
    Weapon: Epic Staff of Arcane power / Staff of the petitionner / Staff of inner sights (on rare occasions)
    Robe: Epic Robe of Diabloist (+3 conjuration) (Colorless slot: +6 STR* Blue slot: Heavy Fort.)
    Helm: Epic helm of Frost (+7 CHA. Yellow slot +6 DEX)
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed (+7 CON, Green slot : Toughness )
    Boots: Boots of Corrosion (Green slot: GFL, Colorless slot +1 CHA*)
    Belt: Thamors (+3 CL on earth spell + 0.5 acid mult)
    Bracers: Concordant op, umd +2 and umd +3. +300 SP
    Goggles: +45 HP, concentration +13
    Gloves: Glacial (-4 sp max, -2 sp extend)
    Necklace: Epic Torc of Prince Rayum-II / Noxious amber.
    Ring1: Thamors (earth savant, Con +1, con +2)
    Ring2: Siberys (Str +6, Cha +1, Cha +2)**
    Trinket: T3 Spyglass Blue slot: +2 Luck

    * If not keeping the Siberys.
    ** Could swap for another ring if you place the +6 STR and the +1 CHA in the colorless slots. You then end up with a free slot

    Pros:
    - +4% crit chances
    - 1 freed ring slot

    Cons:
    - Losing +1 CHA in ToD against Horoth.
    (The work around for this could be to put the +1 CHA into your robe and the +6 STR into your boots.)



    Setup 2:
    Weapon: Epic Staff of Arcane power / Greenblade+Ornamented ml16
    Robe: Epic Robe of Diabolist (+3 conjuration) (Colorless slot: +6 STR Blue slot: Heavy Fort.)
    Helm: Epic helm of Frost (+7 CHA. Yellow slot +6 DEX)
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed (+7 CON, Green slot : Toughness )
    Boots: Boots of Corrosion (Green slot: GFL, Colorless slot +1 CHA)
    Belt: Thamors (+3 CL on earth spell + 0.5 acid mult)
    Bracers: Concordant op, umd +2 and umd +3. +300 SP
    Goggles: +45 HP, concentration +13
    Gloves: Glacial (-4 sp max, -2 sp extend)
    Necklace: Epic Torc of Prince Rayum-II / Shiona's
    Ring1: Thamors (earth savant, Con +1, con +2)
    Ring2: Kyosho's (+6 WIS, +1 STR, Cha +2)
    Trinket: T3 Spyglass Blue slot: +2 Luck

    Pro:
    Gain +2 hit, +2 damage (melee)

    Cons:
    Two handed: Lose +4% to crit chances
    Two weapon wielding: Lose +2 CL on all spells




    TL;DR:

    Setup 1:
    - 1 freed ring slot
    - +4% crit chances

    Setup 2:
    - +2 to hit, +2 to damage (melee).


    I'd choose Setup 1. Am I off ? I know I'm missing something...



    Edit: added colors to make it more clear. I wish we could do ''tab'' just like we can in MS word...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Been thinking about this and seems a bit more complex then it used to be now.

    Mainly because I want to hold my epic staff of arcane power for +2 CL on the couple uncapped spells out there in update9, while maintaining appropriate major lores. No easy for an earth savant sinces there no good named loot with major acid lore..

    Also heard the abishai set bonus stacks with the epic staff, tho not sure on that.. and since its just evocation spells, not sure it matters since the better earth ones are conjuration or necromancy.. Tho id probably want to fit it either way for the xtra stats.

    So onto the gear (Build: Human lvl20 Sorc, Earth savant, full conjuration spec):

    Weapon: Epic Staff of Arcane power
    Robe: Epic Robe of Diabloist (+3 conjuration)
    Helm: Epic helm of Frost (cha +7. yellow slot ?)
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed (con +7, green slot : ? probably hvy fort or gfl)
    Boots: Boots of Corrosion (some ****, and green slot: ?)
    Belt: Epic Lionheaded belt buckle (str +6, con+6, wis +6, dex +6)
    Bracers: concordant op, umd +2 and umd +3
    Ring1: Thamors (earth savant, Con +1, con +2)
    Ring2: Siberys (Cha +1, Cha +2)
    Trinket: mm no litany yet, so probably t3 spyglass. Got a greenslot there too to play with.

    That only leaves 2 spots for lore..
    Either gloves or googles
    Googles right now is HP +45, Concentration +10 and exceptional +3.. Alreayd cleansed so kinda want to keep it.. Not sure where else I can fit concentration, and its not a stat that can be skipped. Too bad epic crafting doesnt let you add skills.
    Gloves right now is glacial

    So I guess maybe recraft googles into 25 hp + major acid lore?
    or make a third GS in gloves? (I do have more essences rdy)

    Or I can just forget the staff and make up some kinda crafted major acid lore dagger to combine with ornameted dagger..

    PS: Yea I have almost all of this gear already, just short a couple scrolls on the abishai stuff.

    Belt:
    ofcourse now epic lionheaded belt is pretty sick.. (very high chance at -2 saves when thigns hit you, and +6 str +6 con, and 2 slots for other +6s)
    But might need to be lost if the earth savant set bonus works or is any good. (sposed to be max CL +3 on earth spells, so not sure) too bad the thamors belt otherwise sucks. (mm actually thinking about it, its +.5 multi on acid, so if I go with ornated16 + greenblade, that would cover every lore)

    Tough setup... Any thoughts?
    If Thamor's doesn't work out, I'd try Gnawed Ring/Vorne's belt instead of Thamors/epic lions headed. I have a feeling it'll be bugged (Thamors) and not stack. I for some reason am liking Staff of the petitioner more than Arcane Power, but I think that's because I'll have a workable Enchantment DC on my sorc, and the 10% mana is just nice.

    Also, this may seem a bit strange, but I'll be wearing claw gloves on my Sorc most of the time, especially while soloing. That 30% amp will be really noticeable when scroll healing I think.
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    Just so I'm clear, the +3 caster lvl bonuses from the epic abishai set doesn't stack with a spell focus + item?

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    Not to sound too picky since this set up is really top but wouldn't the gfl be much better suited on the helm which is most likely never to be swapped out instead of the boots incase you run ToD?

    All said and done that is what I did with my Helm of the Frost.
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    The 5 abishai set already gives +3 dc on conjuration so epic robe of diabolist is not needed.
    My gear setup would be:

    Human Sorc:

    Weapon: Staff of the petitioner
    Secondary: Epic ornamented dagger + Skiver
    Robe: Upgraded regalia of the phoenix
    Helm: Epic Helm of Frost (+7 CHA. Yellow slot: Great False Life)
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed Cloak(+7 CON, Green slot: Heavy fortification )
    Boots: Epic Boots of Corrosion (Green slot: +2 good luck , Colorless slot: +1 exp con)
    Belt: Rahkir's Sash (5% 0.5 universal)
    Bracers: Epic Scorched Bracer (Green slot: Toughness)
    Goggles: Concordant Opposition +300 sp charisma skill +5
    Gloves: Epic Charged Gauntlets (Yellow slot:+6 str if missing or underwater action?)
    Necklace: Noxious ember
    Ring1: Whatever exp +1 charisma ring, slotted with +2 charisma, with varios clickes)
    Ring2: Rahkir's Sash slotted with +2 exp con
    Trinket: Litany of the dead

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