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    Default Looking for Bard Multiclass Build Ideas

    I'm enjoying playing my first bard toon, but feel like this is a class that could benefit from splashing some other levels, I'm just not sure what the best build would be. Are there any real solid multiclass bard builds out there right now?

    I'm currently a Lvl 9 Human Spellsinger, but could easily respec to Warchanter if needed, and am ready to level up. I was thinking maybe a 12/6/2 of either Bard/Ranger/Rogue or Bard/FVS/Rogue.

    Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

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    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=310928

    Created this one a couple days ago, and I'm currently experimenting with it. The point was to make an effective support healer that can last long without potions. Positive Energy Burst is for compensating the lack of powerful AoE healing. You have nice single target healing from cleric levels and dragonmarks. Virtuoso gives regenerating songs for high DC crowd control and Sustaining Song. Also has high UMD with scroll mastery.

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    Stay pure. For SS the capstone and pure bard will be greater than any splash.

    For WC splash they are out there. I still like the pure bard WC but splashes are good too. For splashing I would say take at least 14-16,20 bard. Basically go 14, 15, 16, or 20 bard. There is little to gain for 18 and 19. Less than 14 losses too much on IC unless you are going for something specific like 12/8 x/Bard.

    I would say find the bard guide in the bard section. There are lots of links to builds there.

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    A spellsinger should always remain pure. This is because you will get the highest DC for your spells possible this way.

    A warchanter or virtuoso can be multiclassed, but the most common to multiclass is warchanter.

    There are many warchanter multiclass builds out there:
    16/2/2 bard/fighter/rogue
    18/2 bard/fighter
    18/2 bard/rogue
    15/3/2 bard/rogue/fighter

    Just to name a few. There are other builds that multiclass with barbarian and ranger. The most common splashing being fighter for feats and rogue for evasion and diable device.
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    Bardbarians are fun to play. Not only do you get to smash things, but you get to smash things with rhythm.

    A few bard builds:
    Wolfdancer
    Axesinger
    Skald
    HMDG

    DPS is a valid form of damage mitigation. Piking is not.

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    Need more details: what are your current stats & feats? What do you want to gain from MCing than you can't do (or can't do as well) as a pure bard?
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    been running a 12 virtuoso 6 mechanic rogue 2 fighter. she's a blast to play with the free repeater xbow and a decent intelligence. very self sufficient and can serve multiple roles.

    Might respec her with barbarian for added rage and movement speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Need more details: what are your current stats & feats? What do you want to gain from MCing than you can't do (or can't do as well) as a pure bard?
    I'm not sure what I can or can't do better as a pure bard. This is my first go at one, and while I've been having great fun playing her, I just get the sense that splashing other classes would make her better. If it helps, I see this as probably my new solo play character. I'd like to be able to manage content short of epic by myself and perhaps a hireling and summon.

    I'm now Level 11 Human Bard. I originally started with a warchanter in mind but re-specced to Spellsinger around Level 8. Here are my stats and feats:

    STR: 24 (18 base, 2 Inherent, 4 Enchantment)
    DEX: 9 (8 Base, 2 Inherent, -1 Enchantment)
    CON: 20 (17 Base, 2 Inherent, 1 Feat Bonus)
    INT: 10 (8 Base, 2 Inherent)
    WIS: 10 (8 Base, 2 Inherent)
    CHA: 22 (15 Base, 2 Inherent, 1 Feat Bonus, 4 Enchantment)

    Feat Taken (Not in Order):

    Quicken
    Extend
    SF: Enchantment
    GSF: Enchantment
    Toughness

    Hopes this helps give you a better picture. If re-speccing back to WC makes more sense I am in a position to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilGhandi View Post
    I'm not sure what I can or can't do better as a pure bard. This is my first go at one, and while I've been having great fun playing her, I just get the sense that splashing other classes would make her better. If it helps, I see this as probably my new solo play character. I'd like to be able to manage content short of epic by myself and perhaps a hireling and summon.

    I'm now Level 11 Human Bard. I originally started with a warchanter in mind but re-specced to Spellsinger around Level 8. Here are my stats and feats:

    STR: 24 (18 base, 2 Inherent, 4 Enchantment)
    DEX: 9 (8 Base, 2 Inherent, -1 Enchantment)
    CON: 20 (17 Base, 2 Inherent, 1 Feat Bonus)
    INT: 10 (8 Base, 2 Inherent)
    WIS: 10 (8 Base, 2 Inherent)
    CHA: 22 (15 Base, 2 Inherent, 1 Feat Bonus, 4 Enchantment)

    Feat Taken (Not in Order):

    Quicken
    Extend
    SF: Enchantment
    GSF: Enchantment
    Toughness

    Hopes this helps give you a better picture. If re-speccing back to WC makes more sense I am in a position to do that.
    My main concern is that your charisma might be a tad low for DC purposes. I'm not a spellsinger expert, so I could use verification on this. Other than that, your build is suited to spellsinger (particularly the feats). Worst case scenario, if you get high level and feel you're not quite doing it, you can always lesser reincarnate.

    As a singer, you'll want to stay pure, since you're a dedicated caster. 20 bard will get you max sp, max spells, max song (for a spellsinger), the capstone, and a caster level of 20.

    If you go Warchanter, then you're more likely to be able to splash. You'll want some bonus feats to cover the melee side that you're currently missing, most likely. Since you went the THF route, you'll probably want to grab THF, Improved THF, Greater THF, Improved Crit, and Power Attack. So you'd need at least two bonus feats to cover those, plus the ones you already have, unless you plan to feat swap. Both Monk 2 and Fighter 2 would grant you the feats you need (THF and PA are monk feats), but Fighter would probably work out better for you. You could do the 16/2/2 route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilklr View Post
    My main concern is that your charisma might be a tad low for DC purposes. I'm not a spellsinger expert, so I could use verification on this. Other than that, your build is suited to spellsinger (particularly the feats). Worst case scenario, if you get high level and feel you're not quite doing it, you can always lesser reincarnate.

    As a singer, you'll want to stay pure, since you're a dedicated caster. 20 bard will get you max sp, max spells, max song (for a spellsinger), the capstone, and a caster level of 20.

    If you go Warchanter, then you're more likely to be able to splash. You'll want some bonus feats to cover the melee side that you're currently missing, most likely. Since you went the THF route, you'll probably want to grab THF, Improved THF, Greater THF, Improved Crit, and Power Attack. So you'd need at least two bonus feats to cover those, plus the ones you already have, unless you plan to feat swap. Both Monk 2 and Fighter 2 would grant you the feats you need (THF and PA are monk feats), but Fighter would probably work out better for you. You could do the 16/2/2 route.
    So which path offers more opportunity to solo higher level content; a pure SS or a splashed WC? If WC, what's the best level split? I know monk 2 was thrown out there but I don't think that's possible because of the conflicting alignment requirements between monk and bard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilGhandi View Post
    So which path offers more opportunity to solo higher level content; a pure SS or a splashed WC? If WC, what's the best level split? I know monk 2 was thrown out there but I don't think that's possible because of the conflicting alignment requirements between monk and bard.
    Heh, that's embarrassing. You're absolutely right; monk and bard are mutually exclusive. I guess that shows how much I build bards. Alignment restrictions didn't even occur to me. +1 rep for the good catch.

    Your question is probably better suited to someone with more endgame experience with bards. I'd guess the singer. As for chanter, 16/2/2 seems fairly popular (Rogue/Fighter). But again, I really don't deal with bards much at all.

    DPS is a valid form of damage mitigation. Piking is not.

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