Crafting Viability

[barryman5000]

Shards of POWAH!

[stainer]

Posted elsewhere also:

There is an item in the loot table that drops that can equip to the trinket slot. This is a moderately rare item, but it is one that many of you have used, though in a different context. That should be enough of a hint ...

If it is a bloodstone I will never be able to craft. Ever. They only exist for other people.

[Cyr]

Hmmm... anyone tried a Shard of Power?

Interesting considering that would still lock out most new players until they hit around level 14 or so from crafting these unless they used the store...

[Trillea]

Shards of POWAH!

Aww HECK nah! They are hard enough to get for each character's greensteel, and bind to character! Unless using an unbound recipe on them unbinds the shard (if this is correct) this would NOT be an acceptable thing.

[InSoNiAc]

Hmmm... anyone tried a Shard of Power?

You can indeed deconstruct a shard of power!

Great and supreme shards seem not to work however.

[dkyle]

Aww HECK nah! They are hard enough to get for each character's greensteel, and bind to character! Unless using an unbound recipe on them unbinds the shard (if this is correct) this would NOT be an acceptable thing.

I doubt there is a distinction between those and the much more common Great and Supreme shards.

Limiting Trinket crafting to shroud-running characters or store purchasers is not a great solution, though.

Assuming that I'm right. Don't have access to the game to test currently.

Edit:

You can indeed deconstruct a shard of power!

Great and supreme shards seem not to work however.

Nevermind... that's kind of cruel. But better than nothing.

[MadFloyd]

OK, where else can you get it? We can't disjunct any trinkets currently ingame, and I have not seen anyone post either ingame on in forums that they have gotten one any other way.

It has been added to the general treasure table so it will begin appearing in game. It will also appear in some specific places (I think Three Barrel Cove and a few others that I can't recall). There is already one craftable trinket that appears in the game as it is.

The reason it was put in the store was for convenience. If the description says its a store-only item, that is an error.

[EustaceTrevelyan]

You probably wouldn't want to decon paralyzers, since they're actually valuable, unless they're high ML with trash effects. The way things are set up, you get decon mats by school, so it makes much more sense to decon for whatever skill is in the same school.

[Trillea]

You can indeed deconstruct a shard of power!

Great and supreme shards seem not to work however.

Are they still bound after deconstruction?

[InSoNiAc]

Are they still bound after deconstruction?

Unfortunately the description still says bound to character. But I haven't physically tried to trade one and test it out.

[Mistycball]

The trinket of swiming +11?

lol

[dkyle]

The reason it was put in the store was for convenience. If the description says its a store-only item, that is an error.

Convenience only for previewing on Lamannia, or should we expect this convenience on Live?

[Trillea]

Unfortunately the description still says bound to character. But I haven't physically tried to trade one and test it out.

Unacceptable. Fix it, devs! Please bug report this InS

[Seikojin]

Hopefully, but I'm frankly shocked at how many people actually disagreed with me on this. I never expected the kind of response my thread got.

At this stage in the games existence, I wouldn't be shocked. I think a ton of people are at the point where they wouldn't mind paying for convenience and make some assumptions on how things are going to play out concerning crafting. To do so though asks for the system to bite them in the backside.

Providing any feedback, intelligently, is always accepted by developers. I work with them day in and day out and know from experience that if you aren't rude, you can get a lot of what you want done without a fuss.

So when I see a thread like this, I try to get involved. Sometimes hard when there is a ton of heat from people who are rage-responding.

Hopefully not. I don't think there's a possible "sweet spot". What would the sweet spot be for Large Devil Scales?

When it comes down to it, money talks, features walk. I am not trying to say this in a rude way, just a realistic way. They need to make money in order to get their wages, vest interest from corperate doners, and put more content into the product to keep the cycle going. Since DDO has an item mall option to their income column, they need to bolster it with items to generate revenue from. Instead of handing premade GS items (like some mmo's do; their equivelent of at least), they offer some of the stuff needed to make them. Not everything, but some. This is because the rate at which people buy them does not merit demand to increase the items on the store.

The amount they offer for smalls is not anything more than you can earn on your way to get your first tier 3 completed. This suggests some data mining into the server datalogs on the frequency people pulled those items. I believe, for anything else, the same would be applicable. Leave the drop out of the store, mine results from X amount of existence as a pull, crunch some values, subtract a few off the results, compile interest in the item versus dollar values (maybe using the monthly fee as a base, breaking it into average play hours, then dividing it down into play minutes, then get a per minute, per dollar figure), then put it on the store. By then, it has been 3 or 4 months since the content hit the chests, so interest should be coming close to a high. Now that some people know the grind for the gear, their interest for an easy way to obtain peaks just when it appears on the store; 5 for 25tp.

As for larges? It is a pretty rare drop. If you were to mine the results of some pulls, you would find that you can get 1 LDS per 2 complete runs of shroud (normal) on average.

You can debate that all you want, but I am taking a large collective of information and running averages on it (personal soruces).

Given the rarity, I would think 75tp per LDS would be the 'sweet spot' It would ruin a platsink in game for sure, but its tp cost is enough to warrent trying in game rather than easy buttoning them into your inventory all the time.

[Ironforge_Clan]

Hmmm... anyone tried a Shard of Power?

Ding!

[t0r012]

It has been added to the general treasure table so it will begin appearing in game. It will also appear in some specific places (I think Three Barrel Cove and a few others that I can't recall). There is already one craftable trinket that appears in the game as it is.

The reason it was put in the store was for convenience. If the description says its a store-only item, that is an error.

Whoa, Whoa , Whoa here .... back that truck up.

did I just read that shards of power will be dropping in 3BC and a couple other places as well as the general loot table?

[Trillea]

Whoa, Whoa , Whoa here .... back that truck up.

did I just read that shards of power will be dropping in 3BC and a couple other places as well as the general loot table?

More likely the craftable version will drop, and you won't have to disjunct it.

I would be happy to be wrong though.

[Kza]

Lovely its not a store only! That made me happy (even if i have to admit i just buy it if i want it cause im lazy, as i do xp pots and mana pots).

[Bladedge]

Shard of power does become craftable after you use dust of disjunction on it.

(Standard): Item Deconstruction success with Equipment Disjunction! Consumed: Dust of Disjunction. Created: Shard of Power. Shard of Power becomes Shard of Power.

[Wizzly_Bear]

At least they're hard and durable