Returning

[sirgog]

I think this could be because a returning thrower is considered a weapon whereas the stacks of non-returners are more like ammo.

This.

A returning thrower is a 'base weapon' in DDO, just as a khopesh is a 'base weapon'. The 'Returning' effect is intrinsically part of the weapon.

This is why if you looted a Holy Silver GEOB returning throwing dagger, you wouldn't be able to use it as a melee weapon.

[Letrii]

Returning shurikens are considered ammo though.

[Osma77]

Strange. With the update on the 8th, i tried crafting with another char (specificly deconstruction.) Again, my +4 (i think silver this time) throwing daggers of returning could be put into the deconstructer, but no recipes showed up. However, when i placed my +5 throwing daggers (cant remember if it was special, but i think it was byshec), it would allow me to remove the +5.

[Taluron]

Player: 'If I grab the dwarf and swing him at the giant. How much damage do I do if I hit?'
Me: 'Are you using the dwarf one handed or two handed?'

The dwarf in question was currently unconscious and had a great axe of giant slaying in a locked gauntlet. He was not amused.

Player 1: I grab the dwarf and swing him at the salamander
Player 2: How much damage does a dwarf do?
DM: Depends on the weapon in his hand when he was turned to stone.

The dwarf in question had been hit with Flesh to Stone and had a Spear of Frost in hand which, for some reason that escapes me, had not changed. Only cold-based weapon in the group and a salamander attacked.


As to the OP, Returning in PnP terms would be a prefix property so I'd imagine that the Returning ability in DDO is hard-coded, which is why it can't be removed.