So long MinIIs

[dkyle]

A +4 Holy Silver Khopesh of Evil Outsider Bane requires only level 45 crafting and costs:

10 Arcane Bolts (10 TP)
256 Arcane Charges (128 TP)
+4 Enhancement Liquid (trivial)
25 Good Beacons (25 TP)
320 Good Beams (160 TP)
3 Glittering Dusts (trivial)
2 Marks of the Keeper (trivial)
25 Sib shards (trivial)
1 Silver Khopesh (any; enhancements don't matter)

So, once you level to 45 (out of the 75 we currently have recipes for, and 100 announced at PAX), you can buy something significantly better than a MinII, for its primary purpose, for 323 TP, and a few trivial to get ingredients. And a +5 Holy Burst Silver Khopesh of Greater Evil Outsider Bane will almost certainly be craftable, although will be much more expensive.

I don't think it'll even be that hard to get the bought ingredients by grinding down items, either.

A MinII does have slightly broader use than this weapon, but is it really worth crafting one for Demon Queen, and basically nothing else? Not to mention, the cost of making a Cold Iron version of this item is the same.

[KillEveryone]

How long is it going to take you to get to that level?

Is it going to be faster to grind out that Min II, or is it going to be faster to get to that craftable level?

[dkyle]

How long is it going to take you to get to that level?

Is it going to be faster to grind out that Min II, or is it going to be faster to get to that craftable level?

Not sure, but if it takes as much effort to not even get halfway through the crafting levels as it does to craft a MinII, I gotta think something's wrong.

I actually saw someone link some wraps with Pure Good on Lammannia just now. Pure Good is a level 43 shard.

[MsEricka]

It's easy to level in crafting when points don't cost anything or aren't "real". My sorc was level 17 in elemental crafting in about 5 minutes.

On live however, I don't think many people are willing to spend that kind of money to craft items/weapons.

[ImFour20]

and they can go on handwraps! oh thank you devs!

[Ziindarax]

It's easy to level in crafting when points don't cost anything or aren't "real". My sorc was level 17 in elemental crafting in about 5 minutes.

On live however, I don't think many people are willing to spend that kind of money to craft items/weapons.

I would have only done it if seeker could have been put on bracers. Since they cannot, I don't see a reason to waste turbine points on the crafting system.

[locus]

Did you need to make multiple threads on this?

edit: Nevermind, the other thread is also a repeat. Proceed with the doom/sky is falling

[dkyle]

Did you need to make multiple threads on this?

Nope, that's why I didn't.

This thread is quite separate in purpose from my other thread.

edit: Nevermind, the other thread is also a repeat. Proceed with the doom/sky is falling

As far as I know, it is not.

[Ovrad]

and they can go on handwraps! oh thank you devs!

Except good luck finding randomly generated silver handwraps....

You have to blank a weapon with a metal type via deconstruct to be able to craft with that metal, and since you can't find those on non-named handwraps, monks get the kick once again.

[Azonalanthious]

Except good luck finding randomly generated silver handwraps....

You have to blank a weapon with a metal type via deconstruct to be able to craft with that metal, and since you can't find those on non-named handwraps, monks get the kick once again.

"Shintao"

[locus]

Nope, that's why I didn't.

Yep, good point/apologies. If this one is more informative and less doom filled, it's better for sure. It's nice having exact breakdowns actually.

Can you make the item in the OP as a bound version as well? Or are bound versions restricted to lower quality prefix/suffixes? What do various mods break down to (i.e. how many different categories of stuff such as "good beams" etc are there?). I'm curious about how easy it would be to make any of the greater banes - do you need the exact bane to get the ingredient out, or do they share a generic pool of crafting ingredients*? This would greatly affect the ease of crafting, say, the Holy Burst silver GEOB that's been mentioned, and I guess what percentage of people will buy the ingredients from the store :/. (Not on Lammania - appreciate exact #s being posted).

*i.e. which ingredient is the bane linked to? I assume arcane = the +, good beam = holy.... then the bane part is... the beacons? *seems low/too easy if so*

edit: Oops, nevermind, found more info elsewhere. *tired*

[Angelus_dead]

and they can go on handwraps! oh thank you devs!

If it's possible to make +4 Anarchic Handwraps of Evil Outsider Bane, then that's a severe balance implication...

The justification for Monks getting Holy Burst from rings is that it makes up for them not having handwraps that are as good as greensteel.

[Angelus_dead]

Except good luck finding randomly generated silver handwraps.

Many people have reported finding them, although it does require extreme luck. But it remains to be seen whether Devil Assault loot will count as "random" for deconstruction purposes. (Not that it matters for 50% of Monk builds)

[PopeJual]

Many people have reported finding them, although it does require extreme luck. But it remains to be seen whether Devil Assault loot will count as "random" for deconstruction purposes. (Not that it matters for 50% of Monk builds)

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=310140
Report of "yes" to Silver threaded handwraps keeping Silver on deconstruction.

[grodon9999]

Call me nuts . . . but am I wrong in thinking it should be HARDER to craft a Holyburst Silver Khopesh of GEOB than a Mineral II?

[Aaxeyu]

Call me nuts . . . but am I wrong in thinking it should be HARDER to craft a Holyburst Silver Khopesh of GEOB than a Mineral II?

It seems like turbine has decided to make the game less grindy. Which is exactly what alot of people have asked for.

[dkyle]

Call me nuts . . . but am I wrong in thinking it should be HARDER to craft a Holyburst Silver Khopesh of GEOB than a Mineral II?

Would make sense to me.

[Krag]

It seems like turbine has decided to make the game less grindy. Which is exactly what alot of people have asked for.

People should be more careful with their wiishes.

[Veileira]

So now I only need shroud for concordance opposition on 5 characters, not weapons too? WOOT!

[Aaxeyu]

People should be more careful with their wishes.

I disagree. That you don't have to go through a huge grind to be able to craft good items is a very good thing. IMO ofcourse.