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    Default Bound? To Character? EVERYTHING?

    PLEASE tell me that everything crafted is not bound to character. I cant imagine anyone grinding out crafting on EVERY toon they want to make stuff on.

    Please tell me the empty spaces there will be for unbound items? PLEASE tell me all crafting is not BTC. BTA is bad - BTC is total fail.

    Thoon? Seriously? I want crafting so badly but I'm not going to grind it all out on every character I have... just not gonna happen...

    Whats the fun in crafting if you cant trade the items?
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    from what we saw at pax there was an unbound altar of crafting, and they've stated previously that you'll be able to trade/sell some crafted items. Don't expect everything to be non-btc though.
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    Ok, cool. Maybe access to them is grranted at higher levels or through a DDO store item.

    As long as its not ALL bound, I dont mind. I want to trade...
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    I think that it's more likely that they were having issues with the unbound version of the crafting and that's why we only got the bound portion for right now.

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    Talk to one of the vendors, they'll tell you about the whole process. Unbound shards require a higher crafting lvl to make and since the chance of anyone getting to that lvl on lamaland is unlikely, the devs probably figured it was best to just leave them out.

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    I would have at least liked "Bound" Crafting to be Bound to Account.

    One of the appealing parts of crafting is making semi-twink items like Retribution that would have the lowest ML we could on an item, and passing it between TRs/new toons, or craft nice weapons for those that don't have Green Steel.

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    I did not in my wildest dreams ever think they would do something so stupid as bind it to account. This is an April Fools Joke Right? Hahaha FUnny, I get it. Now Fix it


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    I do not mind if theses products are BTA at end. I'm not planning on selling them or turning myself into the guild crafter, but I really don't want to have to level up every one of my toons crafting abilities.
    I don't think I'll mind doing it on one or two, doing it on all of them is stupid.

    Please make crafted items BTA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saravis View Post
    Talk to one of the vendors, they'll tell you about the whole process. Unbound shards require a higher crafting lvl to make and since the chance of anyone getting to that lvl on lamaland is unlikely, the devs probably figured it was best to just leave them out.
    That and the crafting system is unfinished. It will probably be introduced later (after U9) when they have more of the system completed.
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    BTC seems a bit odd. I liked the idea of crafting up twink items for lowbies, but if it is BTC there doesn't seem like much of a reason to craft anything under lv 20 unless you're planning multiple TR's. If you have one main character and maybe a few secondaries, not too bad to make each a crafting master, but for those with 8+ toons, I can't see them going through the trouble on each toon in order to craft up gear that may very well just be trumped by raid gear anyway (though I'll wait and see some of the final combos before judging on that).
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    It's pretty clear that Turbine can't let all those inevitable +1 flaming long swords to end up on the AH...

    I expect them to release a store item that gives a crafted weapon BtA status, and maybe even one that gives a one time unbound "bind to account on equip" status.

    I think they'll do that so that only the most valuable crafted items will change hands.

    If things aren't bound then imagine the cheap products from grinding XP flooding the AH...

    5000 +1 flaming Khopeshes for 500plat each because someone was getting their crafting XP grind on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordDamax View Post
    PLEASE tell me that everything crafted is not bound to character. I cant imagine anyone grinding out crafting on EVERY toon they want to make stuff on.

    Please tell me the empty spaces there will be for unbound items? PLEASE tell me all crafting is not BTC. BTA is bad - BTC is total fail.

    Thoon? Seriously? I want crafting so badly but I'm not going to grind it all out on every character I have... just not gonna happen...

    Whats the fun in crafting if you cant trade the items?
    It could happen for unbound... rememeber the video with unbound items table?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordDamax View Post
    PLEASE tell me that everything crafted is not bound to character. I cant imagine anyone grinding out crafting on EVERY toon they want to make stuff on.

    Please tell me the empty spaces there will be for unbound items? PLEASE tell me all crafting is not BTC. BTA is bad - BTC is total fail.

    Thoon? Seriously? I want crafting so badly but I'm not going to grind it all out on every character I have... just not gonna happen...

    Whats the fun in crafting if you cant trade the items?
    Go read the NPC dialogue?

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    There are both bound and unbound recipes, as noted. We wanted a lowish level character to be able to make themselves something somewhat useful early on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    There are both bound and unbound recipes, as noted. We wanted a lowish level character to be able to make themselves something somewhat useful early on.
    Well, that clears that up! Sweetness!

    Does anyone have a XP/level for the crafting? How much xp is it for the first few levels and does it raise by the same amount of xp like the current character xp system? It would be nice to have a table for this. Also, do you get more xp for attempting harder difficulty crafts or lower for lower level crafts or is it pretty standard throughout?

    I wish I could get in on the action, but I just can't...so reading all this is just making my anticipation rise...

    It will be nice to be able to craft so I can unload the 30 full bags of vendor trash I've been saving up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    There are both bound and unbound recipes, as noted. We wanted a lowish level character to be able to make themselves something somewhat useful early on.
    I would love some more elaboration.

    Really, this crafting is what is going to have me stay. When you all announced that crafting will be added, I started to get excited about the game again because I really don't like your loot mechanics.

    I'm don't need the named items. They have nice stuff but it isn't something I need.

    I would like to consolidate my stuff like add a +6 stat to my remove disease and remove curse clickies so I don't have to carry that third bracers. Same goes for some of the effects on my caster stuff.

    I want to play the game and have fun but I don't want to have to sit there for all my characters and level up each and every character with a crafting skill just to make something for that character.

    Soooo.......


    Will I be able to make everything unbound, the high level stuff, or are there certain recipes that will still only be BTC, again the high level stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronClan View Post
    It's pretty clear that Turbine can't let all those inevitable +1 flaming long swords to end up on the AH...

    I expect them to release a store item that gives a crafted weapon BtA status, and maybe even one that gives a one time unbound "bind to account on equip" status.

    I think they'll do that so that only the most valuable crafted items will change hands.

    If things aren't bound then imagine the cheap products from grinding XP flooding the AH...

    5000 +1 flaming Khopeshes for 500plat each because someone was getting their crafting XP grind on.
    And? So what. Whup de doo. 5000 flaming khopeshes on the AH not selling. Who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perceval View Post
    I did not in my wildest dreams ever think they would do something so stupid as bind it to account.
    Your statement must be the April Fool's joke.

    It seems illogical to me to NOT make crafted items BTA. I don't want to see the AH flooded with custom crafted loot. It seems like just another way to drive AH prices up.

    BTC may be too much but BTA seems entirely reasonable.

    FWIW, I'm not even that concerned if it is all BTC. If I were I wouldn't make greensteel items....

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    What I know, if they keep anything worth crafting Btc not bta, I will not be using this system. I just spent 4k ddo points since they were free and got one school to about 35 rank.. sorry it will not be worth my time or effort to get this on all my toons... Making the system pointless to me.... Sorry not sitting there crafting on 5 to 10 different toons to make kewl weapons.. the low lvl stuff way to much effort to be worth the time.. I am usely level 10 in less then a week.. Why in the world would want to spend more hours crafting on that toon then it takes to level up. Turn all these things into bound to account then I can work with this system.

    Even with all the stuff I have.. I think be lucky to get level 30 on one school at the current transfer rate. That means to get anywere with this new crafting system you either in for the long haul or going to be buying your levels from ddo store . I have no problem with it taking longer to create a crafting toon, but I do have problem with having to make all my toons crafters.

    On a side note.. if I can use the sorcerer past life feat for the spell focus evocation, why in the world does the past life for wizards not count for it.. its +1 spell focus for all schools.. I think this should count for spell focus conj. or evocation.

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    Speaking as someone who IS in it for the long haul....no problem either way. I don't make every one of my alts the same...some can pick locks...some can't...some can cast spells...others cannot. Some will craft...some will farm for what they want....if I can trade or sell...Bonus.

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