Are you keeping extend?

[voodoogroves]

Yes, haste, rage and displacement. Casting all three of these spells twice as much will impact the caster's dps assuming they cast it which many casters will not so the melee will end up suffering.

Wait, there's melee in my party that isn't a bard?

[TheIvanovFamily]

FvS1: dropping for shield mastery
FvS2: dropping for shield mastery
Wiz: dropping for shield mastery
Bard: keeping, since most of what he casts is haste/rage anyway (if he ever needs an extra feat, however, its getting dropped like a box of rocks)

[Bodic]

bard yes
wiz yes
melee divine yes
everthing else No

[FooWonk]

Melee favored soul:
Keeping.
However, may drop quicken for empower.

Elf Pale master:
Keeping it.

Warforged Sorcerer:
Didn't have and missed it.
Will no longer miss not having.

[Raiderone]

Extend is not about mana conservation. It really never has been about mana conservation. It is all about casting something twice instead of casting something once. If you have to cast something twice that means you are doing less things in a 4 minute spam then you could have otherwise. That is less dps, less buffs, and less everything else. Having extend will provide more dps per 4 minute period then spell focus or spell penetration will almost certainly. The same goes if all the melee have to haste themselves that is less dps for everybody. If your guild can not figure that out I do not know what to tell you.

Ah sorry but having Extend was always about spell conservation. Well at least until Update9. Thats why so many people are getting rid of Extend because why else have Extend unless to increase effecieny of Offensive Spells and limit recasting them.

Let's see do I want to keep casting a non-extended FW at 50 sp and then another at 50 sp (total 100 sp) or just cast one for 1min at 60 sp...
Ah Yah Spell Conservation!!!

Palemasters will keep Extend because of there Aura. The minute that aura becomes non-extendable...bye bye Extend on PM's.

So it was always about Spell Conservation (limit additional recasts) and convenience to increase short buffs (with some Spell Conservation).. I dont care about convenience.

Haste 20sp non-extended by 2= 40sp. Haste Extended is 30sp. So difference of 10sp isn't as big of a deal, compared to casting 3 or 4 FW's.

[Farayon]

WF sorc will drop.
Evoker FvS will very likely drop.
Human SS bard not sure yet.

[moops]

Cleric and FVS--already dont' carry extend
Bard-Keeping it
Battle Cleric-keeping it
Wizard-Keeping it

I have 2 good friends who play Sorcs, and they are keeping Extend--If one solos, it's not always prudent to have to keep displacing yourself, at a 2 minute duration you up the chance of it running out just as you rolled a 1.

As well as the Buff happy people who want to give out Displace to every single person would find that the first person that passed it to was almost out of displace by the time they started.

Anyway, One of these people duo'd Epic Quests and decimated them, he needed no extra feats to do it.

[walkingwolfmike]

Clerics: bye bye extend, hello heighten or empower( if extend were to affect radiant aura again, i'd keep it)
Wiz: keeping it for death aura
Fvs: bye bye extend, hello heighten, empower or spell focus
Bard: keeping it for buffs.

[Farayon]

Will probably drop it on my CC-based pure Spellsinger due to lack of feats. Btw.: Will Sphere of Dancing be extendable in U9?

disco ball is no longer extendable on the current lamma build

[KillEveryone]

Warchanter it will stay. The whole reason it is on that character is because of extended buffs.

Not going to have it on any other caster.

[Jaid314]

PM wizard: keeping, for auras.
AM wizard: i don't play that character much, and if i do it will be for the goal of TRing him into a sorcerer (probably water savant, maybe earth savant). no point in switching before i TR, but once i TR, not a chance he'll have it at 20.
Sorc: dropping, the only question is whether i TR to get rid of it, or feat swap to get rid of it (i only have one free feat swap, and i'm gonna have to switch at least two feats from my current build i think...)
bard: probably keeping. my bard is there mostly for buffing anyways.

[azrael4h]

Bard - Don't play her enough to care either way, probably won't drop it as that'd require effort.

Melee FvS - Dropped, as soon as I figure out what will replace it.

Casting Cleric - Dropped, maybe Empower or a Spell Focus or something.

Sorcerer - Don't play enough to bother

TR - Paladin-into-Sorcerer - Won't be taking at all.

[Lifespawn]

bard keeping

1 melee cleric only 12 lvls keeping
clonk dropping
melee fvs dropping
casting fvs dropping
both sorcs dropping
wiz pm keeping for aura
wis am dropping

[Autolycus]

I'll most likely drop it on my Cleric/Ftr, probably for Heighten.

Palemasters will keep Extend because of there Aura. The minute that aura becomes non-extendable...bye bye Extend on PM's.

I know the RS Aura can NOT be Extended but the PM's Aura CAN be?

[locus]

^ Yes, almost positive. isn't the RS Aura a skill/enhancement? The PM stuff are all buff spells.

What do casters have to do in either of those raids anyway that require a ton of SP?.

Right, and even if they had other things to do, the costs for many offensive/cc spells are lowered.

My wiz 18/2's dropping it for sure. I do most things with another caster, who hasn't had extend ever, and the difference was already negligible, and this makes it worse. On a bard I would keep it, but for any other class, no go. (For my wiz it's the loss on Mass Suggestion/Dancing Sphere actually that's the deciding factor, and actually Empower's missing on her... so... heh, kind of a no brainer.)

On a Pale Master I can see carrying it for sure, but on an AM? You'd probably do better picking up a second kind of SF.

[Aashrym]

I'll most likely drop it on my Cleric/Ftr, probably for Heighten.



I know the RS Aura can NOT be Extended but the PM's Aura CAN be?

Death aura can still be extended.

[oberon131313]

I'll be dropping extend on my FvS for heighten probably, but my pale master/monk will keep it, as will my fighter/wiz, as will my archmage.

[dsoft20]

Dropping extend on my cleric, but I don't know which feat i should take instead

[domecek1]

my bard - keep
my sorc - not
my soul - even not have this feat with him already
my rogue - shroud haste clickies
my monk - shroud haste clickies

conclusion - be more self suff, guys, its not so painy, how it looks

[Lycurgus]

Cleric-already got rid of extend, might pick it up again if the toon ever gets more melee oriented.

Wizard-dropping it for a greater spell focus.

Haste comes in a pot. It comes on a bard. It comes on a GS clickie.

And, what should an arcane be doing other than making sure you have extended buffs in ToD? Probably reconning the Hroroth tank alternating between 2 and 3 badges.