It looks like higher tier items will become purchase only....

[DrakmireTS]

Pearl of Power #

I think those are random gen, not named...

Those have been mentioned before, but the popular counterpoint seems to be that those are ten specifically-named items, not randomly generated stuff.

[Delt]

Pearl of Power #

I think those are random gen, not named...

Not really random gen -- random drop.

Not like you pull Pearl of Power X of Tumbling.

[Ganolyn]

I volunteer the Runied Signet Brooch as fodder for base trinket crafting. It is "ruined" after all, so who would miss it?

[nucphyschem]

I volunteer the Runied Signet Brooch as fodder for base trinket crafting. It is "ruined" after all, so who would miss it?

I don't believe you can use the brooch since I believe it's considered named loot same with guard jung's badge.

[ArkoHighStar]

The fact that all trinkets are named loot is why it is in the store, simply because you can't loot a non named one.

I would like to see crafting trinkets drop as loot as well however

[Neouni]

If some of the blanks are only available in the DDO store i personally think that crafting may tip the scales towards being a pay to be uber game.

- no items in game at the moment require a purchase from the DDO store outside of packs which are not a "consumed resource"

- no ITEMS in the store are required to play the game atm aside from packs

- if the trinket blank is exclusively found in the DDO store who is to say that there won't be other DDO store exclusive blanks? this could very quickly become a very disturbing trend towards purchasing the ability to craft things that other people who may play/work even harder in the game cannot simply by whipping out a credit card.

edit : i hope i'm just doomsaying

There are several options for 'Lazy' people already.
Forgot to get:
Spell materials
shroud ingredients
lockpicks
mnemonic pots

DDOStore has them all, and I'm expecting trinket blanks to be the same.
Don't make doomsday scenarios before you have even seen it.

[Ganolyn]

I don't believe you can use the brooch since I believe it's considered named loot same with guard jung's badge.

Oh I know, but exeptions are only a line of programming away...

[Backley]

There are several options for 'Lazy' people already.
Forgot to get:
Spell materials
shroud ingredients
lockpicks
mnemonic pots

DDOStore has them all, and I'm expecting trinket blanks to be the same.
Don't make doomsday scenarios before you have even seen it.

You can strip other items for blanks, but I expect trinkets to remain DDO Store exclusive. From the DDO Store description of the Craftable Trinket:

Craftable trinkets are only available in the DDO Store!

I doubt "higher tier items will become purchase only", but trinkets are (unless they change that).

[Calebro]

edit : i hope i'm just doomsaying

You are.
It's entirely too early to cry doom about crafting. What little information we have is extremely limited. The vast majority of it is supposition and speculation.

From what we think we know, base items must be used to create blanks, and named items cannot be used in this manner. All trinkets are named items. Therefore, in order to make trinkets craftable, you need a blank that you cannot acquire, hence the need for a store blank of that one particular item.

Also of note is that the things that are craftable are made from randomly generated loot. Therefore these exact same items are available in game. Your chances of pulling said random item may be low, but they exist. So the possibility of creating items that are more powerful than what exists in game is extremely low.

And just to point out, but there are zero sources listed on the wiki. How do we even know that what we're reading is correct?

[Kaeldur]

I didn't see anything about this in DDOWiki...

From the limited testing done until now has anything been noticed as to the item binding? I see the Blank Trinket (bought from DDO Store) is BtA. But what of created blanks and their crafted counterparts?

What I mean is are other blanks BtA? Are crafted items BtC or BtA? Or are crafted items not bound (according to current limited tests)?

If not bound we might see a new profession in DDO. Crafters...

[Backley]

From the limited testing done until now has anything been noticed as to the item binding?

We don't know yet. The preliminary info is from item descriptions for crafting and dev posts. We haven't actually deconstructed/crafted anything yet.

Hopefully we will learn more tomorrow after the Lamannia update.

[LightBear]

If some of the blanks are only available in the DDO store i personally think that crafting may tip the scales towards being a pay to be uber game.

- if the trinket blank is exclusively found in the DDO store who is to say that there won't be other DDO store exclusive blanks? this could very quickly become a very disturbing trend towards purchasing the ability to craft things that other people who may play/work even harder in the game cannot simply by whipping out a credit card.

Probably because there are no randomly generated trinkets, eg all trinkets in the game are named items.

[Cyr]

From what we think we know, base items must be used to create blanks, and named items cannot be used in this manner. All trinkets are named items. Therefore, in order to make trinkets craftable, you need a blank that you cannot acquire, hence the need for a store blank of that one particular item.

That does not require a store item. They just as easily could have added a recipe to grind together X collectibles to make a blank trinket.

If the powers on the trinket are only stuff that is clearly inferior to other trinkets available in game at the same ML then no big deal, but if it is not it is indeed breaking Turbine's promise that the store will not be used to sell superior to in game items.

[Calebro]

That does not require a store item. They just as easily could have added a recipe to grind together X collectibles to make a blank trinket.

If the powers on the trinket are only stuff that is clearly inferior to other trinkets available in game at the same ML then no big deal, but if it is not it is indeed breaking Turbine's promise that the store will not be used to sell superior to in game items.

And there is reason to believe that using collectables in crafting will come in the future, so getting bent out of shape about it now seems pointless.

Every single time something new is added to the store we hear whining about how nothing should be in the store that doesn't exists in game, and every time something new is added to the store it becomes available in-game shortly after.
Do you see a trend?
Starting a new item as store only is fine, as long as the items are introduced into loot tables after. The store becomes a bit of a preview, and that's all.
That's how it's been and that's how I expect to to remain. I see no reason to expect otherwise. The constant whining about it on the forums is not only annoying, but it's also inaccurate because items introduced into the store that actually affect power levels in any meaningful way also make their way to the loot tables after a while.

[Neouni]

And there is reason to believe that using collectables in crafting will come in the future, so getting bent out of shape about it now seems pointless.

Every single time something new is added to the store we hear whining about how nothing should be in the store that doesn't exists in game, and every time something new is added to the store it becomes available in-game shortly after.
Do you see a trend?
Starting a new item as store only is fine, as long as the items are introduced into loot tables after. The store becomes a bit of a preview, and that's all.
That's how it's been and that's how I expect to to remain. I see no reason to expect otherwise. The constant whining about it on the forums is not only annoying, but it's also inaccurate because items introduced into the store that actually affect power levels in any meaningful way also make their way to the loot tables after a while.

True, just look how they do quest packs for VIP and P2P.
VIP can play them from the start.
P2P needs to wait 3 days for it to appear in the store.

This might just take till update 10, since they will keep adding more recipes
(I like how it now has pages)

[Glenalth]

I think, instead of having a trinket blank in the store, that they should use the broken trinket from the questgiver in the Phoenix tavern where you fight all the quickfeet and have a repair recipe in the stone of change. This would give you a blank, craftable trinket. Guard Jung's lost badge would suffice as well, with a "prep" recipe in the Stone of Change.

Brilliant!

[fuzzy1guy]

If they keep it to just some uniqueish items that have FAIR equivilants in game somewhere...

Thats ok.

Or just 'ease of use' type things like blanks that you could make your own with just time/game resources... Thats ok too.




But if it turns into best gear is he who can spend the most pts..... yep. time to quit.



Hell.... if i had the kind of money to support THAT kind of gaming... i wouldn't even be gaming. Hookers, blackjack, ect...

[Drakos]

If some of the blanks are only available in the DDO store i personally think that crafting may tip the scales towards being a pay to be uber game.

- no items in game at the moment require a purchase from the DDO store outside of packs which are not a "consumed resource"

- no ITEMS in the store are required to play the game atm aside from packs

- if the trinket blank is exclusively found in the DDO store who is to say that there won't be other DDO store exclusive blanks? this could very quickly become a very disturbing trend towards purchasing the ability to craft things that other people who may play/work even harder in the game cannot simply by whipping out a credit card.

edit : i hope i'm just doomsaying

Well I seriously dought this will be the ddoooooomm!!!!! everyone is protesting it to be. But even then these items, the blanks, witll still not be "required to play the game". You will still be able to utilize the crafting system. No single magic item is "required" to play DDO. There will still be the current trinkets and other in-game loot dropped. At worst I'd say you would not be able to create a trinket item, but weapons and armore etc... will still be avaliable. It would have to be an awfully powerful item to get people to use it in place of their precious Bloodstone, or CC Trinkets, or Spyglass, etc...

[Ashbinder]

Step 1: Strip 10 (20? 50? 100?) Seeker +10 weapon prefixes for essences.
Step 2: Crunch essences into shard of Seeker +10.
Step 3: Apply Shard of Seeker +10 to Store Trinket.
Step 4: OMG Epic Bloodstone +2!

Yeah, maybe not.

[Backley]

Step 1: Strip 10 (20? 50? 100?) Seeker +10 weapon prefixes for essences.

Or 200 Seeker +4, or 100 Everbright, or 100 Axiomatic, or any other Law-typed effects. No need to hoard Seeker +10's for deconstruction.