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    Default It looks like higher tier items will become purchase only....

    If some of the blanks are only available in the DDO store i personally think that crafting may tip the scales towards being a pay to be uber game.

    - no items in game at the moment require a purchase from the DDO store outside of packs which are not a "consumed resource"

    - no ITEMS in the store are required to play the game atm aside from packs

    - if the trinket blank is exclusively found in the DDO store who is to say that there won't be other DDO store exclusive blanks? this could very quickly become a very disturbing trend towards purchasing the ability to craft things that other people who may play/work even harder in the game cannot simply by whipping out a credit card.

    edit : i hope i'm just doomsaying
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    If this is the case than I'll be cancelling my Subs as soon as this becomes reality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaisMatters View Post
    If this is the case than I'll be cancelling my Subs as soon as this becomes reality!
    well currently it only seems to be confirmed for trinkets (the base) and any and all percentage boosters for crafting.

    The trinkets will likely not be used by anyone with a litany but for people using a bloodstone it may be possible to craft a seeker 6 of something or perhaps a higher seeker item. again its got a lot of potential and is purely a store item.

    As for the percentage boosters they'll likely be used to allow for the crafting of items such as a +5 holy burst silver khopesh of GEOB or +5 metalline handwraps of GEOB which will have a VERY high ml and likely be a 50/50 shot when at one of the higher crafting tiers (imo you should be prepared for the % to be absolutely horrid just so that more buy these things :/)
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    Default what makes you say this?

    It looks like higher tier items will become purchase only

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    trinkets and % boosters are store only atm. so you cannot craft a trinket and its entirely possible that for nicer items such as very good boss beaters the % will be completely abysmal nearly requiring the use of a % booster.
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    Would I be disappointed if the custom crafting system became a payola system? sure, I'd like to get in on that as much as anybody (more so being a monk fan)

    but depending on the cost of said blanks I could see rolling up a toon to farm some points from favor to get a blank from the store.

    also added to the fact that you don't really "need" custom crafting as you can find what you need now through random stuff.

    add in that random stuff will probably become cheaper when people can make the stuff they want reducing the demand and thus the cost of good random loot.

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    I'm to the point now where random stuff doesn't even interest me all that much with most of my toons. I'll use the random stuff up to level 10 or so but after that it comes down to the named loot anyway.
    Sure my handwrap collection wouldn't mind a little sprucing up but i can get DR breaks in devoutes and have some mabar wraps, and what i have found floating around seems to be sufficient. Still on the hunt for some GCBs, but i'm not all hopped up to drop a portal 16 seconds faster.
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    Well I can understand why trinket blanks would be in the store. I'm surprised they would even let us craft trinkets in the first place, to be honest. They're not exactly random gen like all of the other gear we can get, can't find a blank in a chest, can't be crafted in Shroud or ToD, and only hold a limited amount of useful things.

    I wonder what set of prefixes / suffixes we will be able to stick on a trinket...

    I sincerely hope that's where it ends. We should not have to buy a blank from the ddo store to use the system. If I had to guess it may just be for trinkets on a special case, unless they also plan on introducing some random gen trinkets into the loot table.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phidius View Post
    time to use that hammer! >>
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    Quote Originally Posted by weewoo0 View Post
    time to use that hammer! >>
    I hope not - we the customers are the glass jar.

    I'd give up my banana much easier if turbine would relax the fist a little.

    That sounds dirtier than I meant it.
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    Talking trinket blanks the only blank purchaseable

    all non named weapons and armors can have their enhancements wiped, to create a blank, you'll be able to pull a crafting ingredients that removes all effects(not including metal type(ex. cold iron or silver)or guild slots) and there are also ingredients that only remove the prefix or suffix(sp?) of an item, and ingredients that can add +1 - +5 to the item.

    also the only time you need the hammers is if the ml of the item is above your lvl, or your crafting lvl is a lot below what is needed for what you are trying to craft. (Note crafting xp and lvls are not lost when you TR)

    So you see its not really all that bad, though it seems the most powerful ingredients seem to only drop in the end rewards of crappy quests (the ones that are generally only run once for favor or a couple of times for a item, and have **** xp for their lvl)

    I think that most if not all trinkets are currently named items that may be why the blanks for them are only available from the store, as named items can't have their abilities stripped from them.

    hope this helps

    Also check out ddowiki's page on the upcoming crafting system

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaisMatters View Post
    If this is the case than I'll be cancelling my Subs as soon as this becomes reality!

    I am not much of a doomsayer when it comes to this game....I really love playing it

    But If they do this I will be moving on down the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonman457 View Post
    I think that most if not all trinkets are currently named items that may be why the blanks for them are only available from the store, as named items can't have their abilities stripped from them.
    I would say this is probably the reason for DDO store trinket blanks. I can't think of a non-named, random property trinket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifeblood View Post
    I am not much of a doomsayer when it comes to this game....I really love playing it

    But If they do this I will be moving on down the road
    +1 here. A game where $$$ means character power is a game I do not want to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewalex View Post
    I would say this is probably the reason for DDO store trinket blanks. I can't think of a non-named, random property trinket.
    Or they could just add one as a recipe of some sort, or add a blank trinket to the random loot tables, or....
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    I don't mind buying a trinket as long as the properties we put on the trinket are not more powerful than some of the Epic trinkets we can craft.

    And I would get upset if there are going to be other blanks released in the store. Granted - there's no real need for other blanks, unless by blanks it's a specific item that can hold more effects than what's the current limit.

    I could potentially go and buy a +1 shield from one of the armor vendors and craft it (I'm guessing) with better quality and some added effects. But it would be a sad day if I with this system can craft 2 effects onto a item and with a 'store' blank craft 3 or 4.

    Only reason why there's trinket blanks is because there are as far as I can tell no random trinkets and having the same freedom to craft a trinket as a regular item is a good thing.

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    I think, instead of having a trinket blank in the store, that they should use the broken trinket from the questgiver in the Phoenix tavern where you fight all the quickfeet and have a repair recipe in the stone of change. This would give you a blank, craftable trinket. Guard Jung's lost badge would suffice as well, with a "prep" recipe in the Stone of Change.
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    I think more likely this:
    Currenlty blanks will be on the lam store so you don't have to farm them all the time and can quickly test the thousands and hundreds of thousands of combinations of items. Since you can get lam tp for free, it would behoove turbine to have some easy way for people to get those items without hunting them down.

    This way if there is a single item problem in crafting, they will find it out quickly rather than in live.

    I think after lam crafting, I wouldn't be surprised if blanks are available on store. People are lazy and would be willing to buy blanks if it meant less time grinding for them.

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    Has it been explicitly stated that the percentage boosters you're describing won't drop in chests like all the other store potions? Haven't checked myself.

    Only I've had quite the number of guild and xp elixirs drop for me lately, perhaps these will be in the treasure tables too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewalex View Post
    I would say this is probably the reason for DDO store trinket blanks. I can't think of a non-named, random property trinket.
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    I think those are random gen, not named...

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