Don't understand fog spells

[PestWulf]

Hey,

Not having a high level wizzy/sorc nor having really grouped with one, I'm wondering about the "cloud" spells that do concealment.

If I throw stinking cloud into the middle of a melee, is that giving both my allies AND the mobs concealment? Meaning i've just hurt my own teams chance to hit the mob? Or is there some other way this works?

I know I've read that Stinking Cloud is considered a good crowd control spell...I'm just not understanding why.

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thx.

[rest]

You are granting only your allies concealment. Personally I prefer cloud kill, but that's a higher level spell with more cost associated with it.

Luckily (or unluckily depending on your point of view) there are very few spells that are considered 'friendly fire' that affect both mobs and your party members negatively. Grease and sleet storm are the only 2 examples I can currently think of.

So stink it up and help your party members!



Hopefully I'm right about that. That's how I've always known fog spells to function.

[Cheswick]

Fog Cloud affects party members , too. The concealment helps the monsters and the party.

[Tyrande]

Grease, Sleetstorm, Gust of Wind, *Fog they are all party buffs; especially on a trapped slippery slope casted by an Air Savant with Freedom of Movement.

[PestWulf]

So with things like Obscuring Mist..if it is granting concealment to both sides...what is the benefit in it? It would seem like giving your own party an automatic miss chance is a horrible thing to do? Am I missing something?

So it seems like Stink and Cloudkill do not conceal for party members, but the other *fog* type spells do? Just trying to consolidate the information.

[Alektronic]

a) The easiest thing for you to answer the question is test it yourself. If ur a wiz, go the tavern, switch out a spell, go to korthos and play with some zombies. EDIT: and if you're a sorc, buy some scrolls, and do the same.

b) I use CK, solid fog, acid fog, incendiary cloud pretty often. They do NOT cause your allies to miss, but create a miss chance that stacks with blur. Grease/grease + fire spell/sleet storm/create undead/necrotic bolts/gust of wind/cyclonic blast are pretty much the only spells you can use to intentionally screw fellow players outside of the pvp pit.

c) I haven't used obscuring mist and stinking cloud in a while, but I recall that also working like other fogs. The biggest difference (from a melee's perspective) in these spells are the graphics. CK is the easiest to see through, while acid fog or obscuring mist can get pretty ridiculously opaque.

Took me a while to get all this, and I really don't know why there's all this misinformation at lower lvls about the fog spells. Possibly because of some spell changes over the years.