Solar Phoenix, Revised for Update 9

[Bluenoser]

I have to tell you, I run a 13 Pal/3 Monk/1 Fighter, and I almost NEVER lack ki - and I don't even have a monk animal enhancement anymore! (had tortoise early on, but couldn't fit it in the build at high level) Fire stance and TWF skills are the key, and you attack even faster unarmed. Plus, make sure your Concentration skill is huge - it determines your resting ki and decay rate. Mine was 40 (about half the total!) by level 15 after gear (+13 with Garments of Equilibrium), which means I can start maps with a hit of Align the Heavens before the casters do their buffs (they'll love you for it). But, alas, you'll need 3 monk for that. One of the nice things about combining with paladin is their 'focus of good' enhancement, which for 1 AP gives 3 Concentration (2 more AP gives 6, and 3 more AP gives 9!). I can only afford 1 tier, but it's a good deal. And since the finisher is going to be borked, you'll have lots of ki to spend on the other finishers, especially AtH for your spell-based heals.

[Jaid314]

I have to tell you, I run a 13 Pal/3 Monk/1 Fighter, and I almost NEVER lack ki - and I don't even have a monk animal enhancement anymore! (had tortoise early on, but couldn't fit it in the build at high level) Fire stance and TWF skills are the key, and you attack even faster unarmed. Plus, make sure your Concentration skill is huge - it determines your resting ki and decay rate. Mine was 40 (about half the total!) by level 15 after gear (+13 with Garments of Equilibrium), which means I can start maps with a hit of Align the Heavens before the casters do their buffs (they'll love you for it). But, alas, you'll need 3 monk for that. One of the nice things about combining with paladin is their 'focus of good' enhancement, which for 1 AP gives 3 Concentration (2 more AP gives 6, and 3 more AP gives 9!). I can only afford 1 tier, but it's a good deal. And since the finisher is going to be borked, you'll have lots of ki to spend on the other finishers, especially AtH for your spell-based heals.

well, considering your healing amp turns 1d2 into an average of 6 points, your finisher would actually still be able to heal you for 2d4 (but then boosted by devotion and superior ardor pot), which is then boosted by healing amp... yeah, it won't be amazing by any means, but it will be somewhat decent i suspect... not as much as an actual CLW cast from your paladin, but still...

[Cold_Stele]

Thanks for the build, it's given me a lot of inspiration in my quest to find something a HElf melee excels at better than any other race.

Like others, I'm thinking that HElf is bringing you so much that you could drop things in the build that's limiting DPS (particularly Jidz Tetka's requirement for Whirling Steel Strike).

HElf (1.2) + Monk Dilly (1.2) + DT (1.1+1.2) + eClaw (1.3) gives 247%

Interestingly a Pally PL without the final 1.3 from epic gear gives 199.584% which, from what your saying, may come out as the golden 200% needed for Vampiric.

With that much healing amp your actual level splits and feats could be a lot more aggressive - personally I'm looking at pure Ftr or even Blitz (anything with lots of Haste Boots) coupled with u9 vampiric khopeshes or Chaosblades.

End goal would be eChaosblades, which would be very nice with pure Pally.

[Adoyall]

Haven't looked at every reply to this post but it takes 13 in wisdom to get monk dil.

[Mistycball]

Solar do you know how much dmg does the ligth vorpal hunterIII efect?

[guyge1]

Going to roll with it on a 34 point Paladin Past life. Seems awfully spread thin on stats. more so than other builds.
Should I change anything in the build with Stats, Enhancements, or Feats?

It still feels though the HP is a bit low will high end tanking still be possible?
Or does the Healing Amp really make up for the >600HP?
5% Paladin Past Life
10% HotD I
10% HotD II
10% HotD III
10% Half Elf Improved Recovery I
10% Half Elf Improved Recovery II
10% Human Improved Recovery I
10% Human Improved Recovery II
+ Gear
Also builder allows me to use both Human & Half Elf Improved Recovery. Is this right?
& do they still stack? (If I miss that in the thread)
What can AC possibly be reached end game?
If I like the build I will roll a 36 point version or maybe try the 12/6/2 version.

34pt Solar Phoenix 
Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf 
(18 Paladin \ 2 Monk) 
Hit Points: 388+45+30+60+20= 543
Spell Points: 311 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 17
Will: 17

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    21 + 6 + 1 = 28
Dexterity            15                    17 + 6 + 1 =24
Constitution         14                    18 + 6 = 24
Intelligence          9                    11
Wisdom               13                    16 + 6 = 22
Charisma             14                    18 + 6 = 24

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3

+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               5                     7 + 15 = 22
Bluff                 2                     4
Concentration         3                     6
Diplomacy             2                     4
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                2                     4
Heal                  1                     3
Hide                  2                     3
Intimidate            4                    31 + 15 + 3 + 2 + 4 = (55+)
Jump                  2                     5
Listen                1                     3
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                  1                     3
Swim                  2                     5
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      4                    14 + 3 + 3 = 20

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons

Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Whirling Steel Strike

Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness

Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting

Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Improved Monk Dilettante I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Way of the Tenacious Badger I
Enhancement: Half-Elf Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Half-Elf Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Hunter of the Dead I
Enhancement: Paladin Hunter of the Dead II
Enhancement: Paladin Hunter of the Dead III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate III
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Turning I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Turning II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Turning III
Enhancement: Paladin Improved Turning I
Enhancement: Paladin Improved Turning II
Enhancement: Paladin Improved Turning III

[Staffman]

Can you elaborate on why half elf is better than human? Can it be tweeked for a human?

[whomhead]

[B][FONT="Book Antiqua"]Going to roll with it on a 34 point Paladin Past life. Seems awfully spread thin on stats. more so than other builds.
Should I change anything in the build with Stats, Enhancements, or Feats?

I assume that you're taking 13 wis at the start to qualify for the Monk dilettante? If so, you may not be aware that you can swap dilettante feats at a higher level after you use tomes and/or level-up stat points to qualify. Where I in your shoes I would start with 11 wis and swap in the monk dilly after you use a +2 tome. The two extra points would probably best be used to increase starting strength to 16.

[Zeklijan]

Feedback and commentary welcome as always, I'd love to refine this or fix any glaring flaws which may have slipped in.

Okay!

So, first of all, you are a paladin, which means you get self healing spells!

I HIGHLY recommend you to take quicken spell and Maximize, you could replace the longsword feats and use a pair of alchemical handwraps (I know the build is older than the weapon just suggested but things change, and so does builds !)

With those and a Torc/conc opp, you can get very decent self healing abilities just saying

[~almaden]

+1 and thanks for the build inspiration.

See http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=313168&page=9 for deails.

[cdr]

Feather_of_Sun approves of this necro.