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    Quote Originally Posted by Khellendros13 View Post
    It's a proc, similar % chance to madstone.
    Not quite.. Madstone is 30-40%.

    They are 10%. They blantantly say so in the description unlike most procs.

    http://itemwiki.cubicleninja.com/Ite...spx?itemID=143

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Proc on melee strikes against you. you have to get hit a lot ot maintain it... 10% proc chance, short duration.

    Caster? .. cast it.

    Actually get kinda annoyed when casters loot those thinking, wow thats definetely a caster item.. They're not very good endgame item for casters at all unless using a clicky like telvi's sash to get your lvl8+ ice dmg boost is beyond your abilities.
    /this (unless that caster wants it for the spell penetration, I won't begrudge a caster that uses it for that, or for getting Archmagi at level 13).

    They are situationally best in slot for anyone that uses Madstone Boots (and so can't always fireshield themselves).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khellendros13 View Post
    It's a proc, similar % chance to madstone.

    I use them on my Wiz for the Spell Pen as I have better things to hold and have not made my Torc epic yet (need scroll).
    Yea the spell pen is nice.. But it is available in many other slots.

    DT robe/docent
    Necklace (hruvaya medallion)
    Ring (shamans band)
    Trinket (eardweller)

    couple others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stille_nacht View Post
    Arcane wizard capped going to tr to pale master.

    Its basically one minor gripe vs. another.

    do i want to recast fireshield? (bracers is perma)

    or do i want to lose 45 hp to use an sp clicky?

    im leaning towards con. opp. gloves right now...
    Losing 45 HP on a Pale Master isn't a big deal. You probably will have more than enough even without it, and it will come back in about 4 seconds after reequipping them anyway. Another reason to not go into the bracers slot is that the Demon's Consort Bracers are (apparently) quite excellent. I'm after a set for my PM.

    The bracers are very nice for their cold shield as a random bonus, but if you need the shield up, you'll usually be casting it--keep it prepared anyway. I like it most for when I'm just blocking and letting stuff beat on me for SP, or so the melees don't have to chase whatever is aggroed on me. The shield procs and helps kill stuff off for 0 mana.

    Personally, I think there are better things for you to be doing with your greensteel than making a triple positive item. Make a double Pos for the Raise clicky if you need it, then make something else that's more useful.

    I like the Tempered HP item with Earth at tier III for a +45 HP item with +10 Concentration and +3 Con skills (or basically a +13 Concentration item), though there are more +15 Concentration items becoming available in usable slots with the possibility of being able to make some decent item of your choice with the new crafting system. I went Tempered I on my helm, because I didn't want to spend the larges on what I figured would be a waste of guards, but given how often I'm allowing my self to get beaten on as a Pale Master, I kind of regret that decision.

    Another option is to craft an Ash item for the Enervation guard. Get hit and essentially raise your DCs. I've adopted Leloric's preference for this style a bit as I've started wearing my Lion-Headed Belt Buckle for the shaken effect (-2 to saves) on being hit. It's a fairly noticeable difference in content where monster saves matter, and we'll be seeing more of that in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khellendros13 View Post
    It's a proc, similar % chance to madstone.

    I use them on my Wiz for the Spell Pen as I have better things to hold and have not made my Torc epic yet (need scroll).
    ah, in that case, bracers all the way, like im going to get hit 10 times for a short proc

    spell pen- minor IX on eardweller, normal VIII on petitioner
    archmagi- belt

    it has nothing for me now :/ (bracers)
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    The bracers are still the second lowest ML item with Archmagi, with the lowest being the Unsuppresed ML 5 Vibrant Purple Ion Stone, correct? My plan for the bracers was for TR use.

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    Hmm true i guess, but my view is "i did without it first level up, i can do without it again, plus i have greensteel on anyway"
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    Quote Originally Posted by stille_nacht View Post
    ah, in that case, bracers all the way, like im going to get hit 10 times for a short proc

    spell pen- minor IX on eardweller, normal VIII on petitioner
    archmagi- belt

    it has nothing for me now :/ (bracers)
    It lasts for something like a minute and a half, and is well worth using. And if you are a Pale Master, you don't mind getting hit much. In a lot of content I have cold shield running almost 100% of the time because of these.
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